So, you can call me "IVY-Obsessed"

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<p>Like I mentioned above, call me an "IVY-Obsessed." I have this obsession about getting into Ivy Leage, but my family just cannot afford it financially. To make the matter worse, I'm not even a student who has "straight A" nor "Triple 800 on SAT" nor "5 on AP". I'm not a genius but I'm a hardworker. The fact that I cannot even apply to Ivyleague because of my parents and of my academic record(as well as extracurricular) makes me feel doomed and discourages me. I cannot resist the strong desire to transfer to Ivyleage after finishing 2 years of college. What can I say...I dream about IVY, I admire IVY, A degree from Ivy League will always draw attention to my resume, and I'll have undeniably prestigious entry to IVY alumni network! However, my dream educations come at an exorbitant amount of price that I cannot afford. To reveal my origin, I'm a foreign student from South Korea and have been in the U.S. for 2 years. I researched a bit of informations about "International student financial aid"..and the reality is tough. The acceptance rate for international student who are applying for Financial Aid is AWFULLY low.</p>

<p>I need good advice.-I've asked my school counselor, pastor, and parents; however I have not reveived any contented answers from them. </p>

<p>Do you think my dream is unreachable,unfeasible and unrealistic? Are there any chances of "Getting in" to IVYs via transfer?</p>

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<p>Well, you will always get the cliche (but true) response that there are tons of other great colleges you can get into and have a great and sucessful time. You have a clean slate when you enter college. Fill it with hardwork and passion and try the ivies for grad school.</p>

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<p>If you wanted it that bad then you should work harder for it.</p>

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<p>Ivies are overhyped and overrated... There are a lot of cheaper schools that give the same quality of education, if not better, than your beautiful "ivy-league" schools</p>

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<p>This seems a lot like a troll, albeit an almost convincing one.</p>

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<p>Yes, you can transfer to an Ivy if you perform extremely well in college. I was accepted to one and wait-listed at another as a rising junior. (I turned them both down to attend another school.)</p>

<p>But IT'S NOT ALL OR NOTHING! If you're bright and work hard, you'll succeed so long as you don't do yourself in! The University of Chicago, W&M, UVA, any of the top 20 LACs, etc. etc. are all great schools. Nobody really cares if you went to Harvard or Michigan...they look at you as an individual...even if you go to Harvard they know one Harvard student isn't the same as another (for all they know, you were a lacrosse player or legacy).</p>

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<p>Is this Flame/trolling?</p>

<p>Well if not, the Ivy-League degree may help you open doors at your first job (so does connections, job experience, internships, etc). But beyond that, you're just paying $50,000/year for essentially the same education you can get elsewhere (disclosure: i'm going to Columbia next year). With that said however, yes going to an ivy-league university does afford you the social prestige and resources that may not be available elsewhere. Most importantly, you will be surrounded by the most talented students in the country-- many of whom will go on to do very important things (this is where networking kicks in). </p>

<p>But on the other hand... if your goal is Law/Medical school, 180 LSAT 4.0 GPA will get you into Harvard Law if you come from Columbia or Rutgers.</p>

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<p>dude, i think ivy leagues guarantee to meet need. or at least many of them do.
So, if u really would die to go, and ur willing to take the debt, than do it.</p>

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<p>OMG! I just looked at my previous post and realized i wrote "dude".
Ive never done that before. Sry.</p>

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dude, i think ivy leagues guarantee to meet need. or at least many of them do.
So, if u really would die to go, and ur willing to take the debt, than do it.

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<p>She(?)'s an international student. Only HYP are need blind for Internationals.</p>

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<p>thanks you guys-by the way i plan to be a doctor one day, hopefully an IVY-graduated doctor.</p>

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<p>Well ivystudent: like another poster said, the US has many, many great colleges that will well prepare you for a good medical school. Being a graduate from one of the HYP colleges, I can say that your obsession with the "name" is misplaced and you should devote your energies into looking for a school that you will thrive in (and be affordable for you and your family). You have stated that your transcript probably does not make you a viable candidate for these ultra selective schools. Again, they are THE MOST selective schools in this country. And it's no shame not to be accepted at them. If my daughters don't want to go there, I won't be sad. I loved my time at college but since graduating, I realize the relative worth of my "famous" alma mater. I'm much more than just an alumnus of a famous school. And the people around me are much more than alumni of the schools that conferred their degrees.</p>

<p>Please enjoy your remaining HS career and choose wisely -- ignore the "prestige" chase. Best of luck to you.</p>

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<p>Dude, why an Ivy? Ever looked at the new Ivies, or great state schools, or top LACs? A top LAC will give you a fabulous education - and most are generous with fin aid. You could probably get a scholarship at a public school. New Ivies such as Duke are also very highly regarded. Basically, just broaden your horizons, and you'll see a whole new world opening up.</p>

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<p>@milki: The complete list of need-blind colleges for intls would be HYP, Williams, Middlebury and MIT</p>

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<p>Maybe this will help give you some perspective:</p>

<p>My father, mother, and older brother represent, among them, three different Ivy institutions (specifically, Yale, Penn, and Cornell). None of them love their alma maters the way I love my school (a non-Ivy). At best, they'll give the school weak praise.</p>

<p>My parents have about three lasting friendships from their years at Penn-- and it sounded like they didn't have that many friends when they were there. If I press them to compliment the school, they talk about a great professor they had-- one memorable one for the tens of mediocre professors-- and my mom mentions that she loved the campus and that a connection with a professor helped get her into grad school at Yale, which she didn't like because she felt she did too much work.</p>

<p>My brother liked Cornell, but because he loved his fraternity, organizing events, and going to hockey games. Academics were never a priority for him, and he did not make any connections with his professors.</p>

<p>Both my mom and brother were discriminated against because of their ivyness when they entered the job market. My mom tried to get a job as a high school math teacher, but found that nobody called her back (a job recruiter told her her Yale degree was turning employers away) and my brother, a math/econ major, was being passed over for accounting majors from state schools. If the ivy job network is so fabled, then where was it in times of need and frustration for my family members?</p>

<p>Anyway, if you want to be a doctor, you can go to just about any undergraduate school, and no matter where you go, you will be working hard and you will be expected to succeed. </p>

<p>What do they call the person who graduated last in his class at med school?
Doctor.</p>

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<p>one word......</p>

<p>scholarships</p>

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@milki: The complete list of need-blind colleges for intls would be HYP, Williams, Middlebury and MIT

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<p>I only mentioned HYP because the OP only wanted Ivies!</p>

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<p>I'm pretty sure this person is a troll.</p>

<p>Why go to a school just because it is famous? It's much better to go to school where you fit in, not where you try to fit into the school. There are better places to get an education than "ivy league" schools (which is just an old sports confederation)</p>

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I'm pretty sure this person is a troll.</p>

<p>Why go to a school just because it is famous? It's much better to go to school where you fit in, not where you try to fit into the school. There are better places to get an education than "ivy league" schools (which is just an old sports confederation)

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<p>You're new to CC, aren't you?</p>

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<p>just making sure-I'm not a troll</p>