So you want an MA in IR?

<p>Well, I tried to get you guys to evaluate my chances a year ago with no responses, but I thought I’d try again. I’m interested in HKS, WWS, SIPA, and Georgetown. Big thing I lack is a quantitative background.</p>

<ul>
<li>3.89 GPA - University of Washington, Seattle</li>
<li>Double-major in Political Science and Philosophy</li>
<li>2010 Truman Finalist, Honors program, Phi Beta Kappa, Magna Cum Laude</li>
<li>Haven’t taken the GRE yet </li>
<li>Internships: U.S. Senator’s office, Department of State, Department of Justice, currently interning at the Council on Foreign Relations</li>
<li>Studied abroad in Rome, where I also did my State Dept. internship</li>
<li>Various campus leadership stuff–President of a political club and political campaign work</li>
<li>Languages: Latin (advanced), Italian (novice), German (intermediate) – only Latin is reflected in my transcript</li>
<li>No fellowships, published papers, etc… research at my internships, and one presented paper at an undergraduate research symposium.</li>
</ul>

<p>So, I’m hoping I get a full-time job with CFR, but what are my chances applying (almost) fresh out of college? Again, no quantitative background, but I’ve taken a political economy class.</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>I’d say you’re good for at least Gtown (assuming you get a good GRE score), Atican.</p>

<p>Hi all- I am looking at applying to grad school this fall and I would love to get some honest feedback on what my chances look like for top 10 IR programs- specifically Tufts, SIPA, SAIS and Georgetown.</p>

<p>-BA International Affairs at GWU with 3.5 GPA
-GRE: 640 V, 710 Q, 4.5 AW (surprisingly very low)
-Internships: US State Dept, a DC foreign policy think tank, a foreign policy government commission on the Hill and for my congressman
-Study Abroad Japan for one year
-2 years experience volunteering with local human rights/development NGOs in SE Asia
-Languages: proficiency in Indonesian, near conversational in Japanese, basic Spanish</p>

<p>So lots of focused experience in IR back in DC and some international work experience but not so stellar GPA and ok GRE scores… How do my chances look? I’m also debating about waiting another year to find a job for more experience and to save money for grad school but the job prospects aren’t great either…</p>

<p>At least Gtown? :stuck_out_tongue: Why do you say that? I have a friend who got into SIPA, for example, but not the MSFS program at Gtown. </p>

<p>Is it the lack of quantitative background? I know I don’t have 2-3 years professional experience, but I have over a year’s worth of internship experience (US Senator, DOS, DOJ, Council on Foreign Relations). I’m hoping to be in that ~10% who get admitted as recent grads…</p>

<p>I thought SIPA wanted work experience. HKS and WWS I don’t know much about. Gtown, while difficult to get into, nonetheless seemed like one you have a better shot at.</p>

<p>Maybe someone wouldn’t mind judging me? I’d like to know if I have a shot at LSE, Kings, Toronto, SAIS, G-town, or Fletcher…!</p>

<p>-3.72 GPA, dual B.A. in Political Science and East Asian Studies from a state school
-Magna cum Laude w/ some graduate-level courses/honors thesis, Phi Beta Kappa
-Near-fluency Japanese, novice Thai, intermediate French
-No internships (yet! :frowning: )
-Waiting on GRE scores, but I hit a 165 on the LSAT…</p>

<p>Any help would be greatly appreciated :)</p>

<p>What are the chances of a transfer student to a better school from a less prominent school adjusting and going to one of the top ten? I know the adjustment curve stands against me, but I’d like to know if anyone here has had experience in this. Hope to get a reply—or a PM—from someone who knows about this.</p>

<p>what do you guys know/think about BU and NYU MA in International Relations? anyone know something concerning their acceptance rate or the quality of the programs?</p>

<p>For those of you in programs, IR policy programs that have had to take quantitative courses as a requirement…how hardcore/hard/technical is the quantitative course? Is it doable for non-economists or non-finance people?</p>

<p>To those applying to an MA program at American SIS:</p>

<p>I thought I had read on the schools homepage there was a 500 word-limit for the SoP. Now I cant seem to find this information anywhere. Does this mean we’re free to write without a limit??</p>

<p>I’m going to one of the DC IR schools for a Masters over there, I’m starting in Spring. The main challenge is I’m “old”. By the time I finish the Masters (which I’m doing part-time) i’ll be 32-33. </p>

<p>Now I work at a major, large and influential international organization, but it’s basically admin. So I’ll be 32-33, with 7 years of admin work in an International Organization.</p>

<p>Will I be marketable in the job market at that age, once I have the certified expertise of a Masters Degree? I fear I’ll be too old then.</p>

<p>superseiyan–age is by no means a hindrance.</p>

<p>quick question>
what is the take between these two programs?
LSE-PKU double MSc degree in international affairs - 2 yrs
Columbia MARSEA regional studies China MA - 1 yr</p>

<p>?
coming from a management and east asia undergrad degree, and later probably moving into private sector consulting, PhD or even media…
where to go?
whats a better choice?
(the two degrees come out to be the same cost)</p>

<p>(ive been accepted to LSE Masters in Management tho, and i dont think studying mgmt again after undergrad is that substantial…however, more marketable degree…but i want to focus now on China and not many programs out there have that)</p>

<p>THANK YOU</p>

<p>Hey all,</p>

<p>This appears to be the most active IR-oriented thread in the web so I thought I might have luck with a few questions regarding admissions.</p>

<p>I had to take the GREs twice as I was not pleased with my verbal score the first time around. The second time around, I got an acceptable verbal score but my quant score fell below the range of what I believe top IR schools consider competitive. My highest scores from each test seem to be in the range, but I fear the lopsided nature of my scores may reflect poorly on my app. Should I retake the exam? My scores are: 1st attempt - V:560, Q:680, 2nd attempt - V:670, Q:640. </p>

<p>Do the top schools generally take the top scores, average them, or take only the latest submission? Additionally, is a 680 on the quant considered “competitive.” I feel like most people score at least 700.</p>

<p>I appreciate any help anybody can offer. Thx!</p>

<p>I think those should be ok–GRE is only one part of the package.</p>

<p>^It depends how much professional experience you have and what your quantitative background is. If you have no quant background, your quant score needs to be higher.</p>

<p>You need to call each school and ask what they do with the GRE scores… my bet is that they just look at all of them and see how you did on the whole (whether you improved, etc.)</p>

<p>Atican and flyers29, thanks for the responses. In terms of my quant background, I attended NYU Stern as an undergrad and graduated cum laudi with a finance degree. I studied econ, valuations methods, financial theory, etc. I’ve been working for roughly 2.5 years for a large multinational financial data company as an investor relations consultant. </p>

<p>Do you think my professional experience and academic background make up for the below-average quant score, or should I just take it again in December?</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>I was hoping someone could provide a comparison between Georgetown and Hopkins. Not which is better but their strengths and weaknesses and after reading this thread their strengths in terms of region AND focus of study. </p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>Hey everyone,</p>

<p>I’m hoping someone can give me some feedback on potential IR graduate programs. I graduated from a good undergrad school (top 30) in history and french. My overall GPA was a 3.1, while my major GPA was a 3.4. I did poorly my freshman year, but over my last 3 years my GPA was a 3.4 or so (if that helps any).</p>

<p>I have a lot of overseas experience. I’ve lived overseas for 12 years, including studying abroad my junior year. I’ve interned with the government agencies for two summers, doing research relating to international relations, and I should be getting good letters of recommendation from professors and supervisors. </p>

<p>I haven’t taken the GRE yet, but I think I can get a 600 verbal and 700 math. I know I can’t get into any top programs, but right now I’m looking at programs in Virginia, like George Mason. Outside of Virginia, I’m looking at Pittsburgh’s program, which looks pretty good. Does anyone have any other recommendations for schools that I could look at? It’s hard to find rankings for master’s programs.</p>

<p>Also, I assume scholarships are pretty competitive. I’m just worried about potential costs of going to a program out of state. Any information anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated.</p>

<p>Hi Yabanci,</p>

<p>My first question is why do you automatically assume that getting into a top school is impossible? You might think so because of your GPA, but admissions people consider the reputation of your undergrad school too. I mean let’s face it, a 3.0 from Harvard has a bit more weight than a 3.0 from the average state school. And in IR, international experience counts for a lot. If you’ve spent all of that time abroad doing interesting productive relevant things than you’ll be of great interest to IR programs in even the top schools. Should you have solid recommendations and are able to produce a fabulous statement of purpose I’d say you’d have a fair shot. </p>

<p>Personally, I’m almost done with my applications to George Washington University and American University for the International Development programs and George Mason is my back up. Now, I have 3.35 GPA from a rather reputable school in International Studies, great rec letters, I ended up with an A in my senior capstone project, I studied abroad in Moscow, and I was a Peace Corps volunteer in Ukraine for 2 years, which makes me competitive for sure. My GPA isn’t remarkable, but it’s pretty decent. The ID program requires development experience and foreign language proficiency, I have both. I do have some weaknesses though, I took the GRE a few weeks ago, it was a disaster, and I don’t mean “I only got a 1200” disaster…a real disaster. I’m taking it again in 2 weeks, I’m positive that as long as I do a little better I’ll have a fair shot. My friend’s fiance got a GRE score in the 1000s and still made it into GW, we all served in the PC together. Let’s say you do get that 1300 on the GRE, you’ll have a very good chance at a top school like GW or American U. Frankly, I’m tired of reading blogs where people call a score of 1200 mediocre or poor, it might be for some programs and if you’re right out of undergrad, but relevant professional experience and top notch writing in your purpose statement are key. Another weakness, I’m not sure if it’s really a weakness, but I’m always turning things around in my head about this, is that my first half of my degree is from a community college (a good one though). I’m not sure how that will look to a top school, although I ended up with a 3.95 GPA when I graduated with 2 Associates degrees in International Studies and Social Science. The one B that I got was in a class totally unrelated to my major, that was in my 1st semester when I didn’t know what I wanted to do. I was also a member of Phi Theta Kappa, the international honors society for community colleges, it sounds good to me but who knows? </p>

<p>American University is something I’d look into, although at this point you don’t have much time, the deadline for Fall '11 is Jan 15, it could be done though, after the 15th your app could be considered on a rolling basis. To be honest I can’t really find out if it’s considered “better” or “worse” than GW, but it’s absolutely one of the top as listed by the Foreign Policy Association. GW is my dream, but at this point being stuck in Arizona with my parents working at a preschool I’d be ecstatic with an acceptance letter from any of the 3 schools I’m applying too, even George Mason.</p>

<p>Also, I can’t afford to pay for grad school at all, but that’s where federal financial aid comes in. There’s something called the GRAD PLUS loan that you’ll see when filling out the FAFSA, it covers tuition and provides money for living expenses. A friend of mine, also at GW, received 9,000 dollars just for living expenses over a 3 month period as well as the loan for the tuition bill. That’s what I’ll be doing, can’t do it without that. The move for me will be enormously expensive, but there’s nothing for me out here, so I have to get out to DC regardless of the astronomical amount of debt that I’ll be raking up.</p>

<p>You’ll get into Mason no problem, even with my crap GRE score I’m confident I’d get in. You should be as close to DC as possible for this field. I mean I can’t say anything with any certainty about this to you as I’m in the thick of it myself. But I’ve been very vigilant in my research and blog ■■■■■■■■, I’ve read lots about people with low GRE scores getting into this top school or that one, some with a not so great GPA but with interesting experience getting into that school…yada yada. Oh and also, admissions will certainly consider your over all GPA, but they’ll specifically want to see that your major related courses are solid. A bad grade in chemistry will more than likely be forgiven whereas as a D in a political science course wouldn’t. I got a C in one of my major courses, it was awful and I hated the professor, but I’m hoping that doesn’t look too bad against the rest of the solid work that I did. Ok, wow, well I rambled on and on, hope that provides a little more support or at least encouragement.</p>