<p>yeah, anyone like that here? lol... </p>
<p>i got a 4... sigh, im not a native speaker per se (over 90% english in the house, only among parents is spanish spoken, esp about private stuff), even though i jumped from Spanish II(9th) to AP (11th, cause old school didnt offer III soph year)... but that 4 BURNS... i hope i do better on SAT II</p>
<p>is SAT II more reading comprehension (argh) or verbs/complete the sentence?(yay!!)</p>
<p>thanks!</p>
<p>you didn't get a 5, what a disgrace, lol, I'M going to get like a 2 on ap spanish literature. that test is a pain in the arse.</p>
<p>im english and got a 2 on the ap english exam lol</p>
<p>its not that bad to get a 4 on AP Span Lang.. you will still get credit for it..
but it wont help admissions to not ace a native-language exam designed for second-language students..</p>
<p>I'm in the same situation.. also a 4.. but I got a 600 on the SAT II O__O. And my school doesnt give credit for anything less than a 5.. <em>sigh</em></p>
<p>"it wont help admissions to not ace a native-language exam designed for second-language students..."</p>
<p>thats the thing, im not native... english is spoken PREDOMINANTLY, my little bros had speech problems, and their pathologist said only one tongue... and of course that was english... since then they've overcome their speech problem, but english as the offical home language, and only english has remained... i just happen to be hispanic... my ancestors spoke spanish.. bruhaha... that doesnt mean i grew up in a "iz very hard to speek de eengleesh" home... hmm...</p>
<p>Crash_Blair , what school is that? and a 600sat2/5ap is a huge discrepency, what's the difference between the tests? more verbs/sentence/grammar or reading comp? the reading comp was what got to me....</p>
<p>urcool, so did i! but i still get ap scholar either way....</p>
<p>well I got a 4 on the AP, not a 5. Took both really long ago so I don't really remember.. SAT II had more grammar/sentences, both of which I'm pretty bad at.. eh. And the school that only accepts credit for a 5 on an AP Language = MIT.</p>
<p>07-02-2006 08:11 PM
urcool im english and got a 2 on the ap english exam lol</p>
<p>I didnt take the english exam but most of of the students that took it at my school got 2s as well, only like a few got 4s</p>
<p>Im also hispanic but not native and I take the exam next may, also need to take the sat2 span, but which one was easier? would u guys consider a prep book for any if u were to achieve a 5 on ap test or high score on the sat2 span?</p>
<p>Same here, I'm practically a native speaker or let's just keep it at fluent, but I also unfortunately got a 4 and I won't be getting college credit :( oh well, though I expected it, did so bad on the picture sequence about the girl taking in the cat [only talked about the first three pictures] and those ridiculous technology questions that were they to ask me in english I still would not have had an answer, but oh well, at least I brought up my school's average on the test since I'm the only to ever get a four and only two people have ever gotten fives [native speakers themselves] so it's not too bad.</p>
<p>I took AP Spanish in 10th grade but I got a 5. It's spoken along w/ English at my house. I was born in Colombia (but came to U.S. when I was 8 days old, so I've lived here practically all my life.). I also took the SAT II June of my sophomore year and score an 800. I remember being in the 94%ile so apparently, (roughly) 6% of college-bound Spanish speakers (both native and non-native) are exceptionally fluent and have mastered Spanish enough to score perfectly. I wouldn't sweat it, FindFishFast. A 4 is still respectable. PM me and Ill look up some stats on the percentages of 4s and 5s in AP Spanish from the past years (for your ethnic group and for overall test takers).</p>
<p>In my case, I'm going to Princeton (Class of 2010 woo hoo)!!! There, they give credit for 4's or 740's on language tests (APs and SAT II's respectively). So if you have even just ONE score that meets those criteria, you've satisfied the language requirement. Given my love for languages, I satisfied the requirement five-fold (AP Spanish 5; SAT II Spanish 800; AP French 4; SAT II French 740; AP Italian 5). Once you know one language, it's a lot easier to pick up another one (especially if they are in the same linguistic family).</p>
<p>Before I digress any further, I'd like to reiterate: don't sweat it! College admissions looks at MUCH MORE than just what scores you got on silly Collegeboard exams. Your involvement in activities and your personality count too (and MAJORLY, may I add)! You don't want to come across as a merely diligent student who is grade-obsessed and not much else. Slightly less than 2,000 students got into Princeton this year of the overall close to 18,000 that applied. I can guarantee that a HUGE portion of those rejected were grade-obsessed kids who didn't have that sparkling "je ne sais quoi" that the rest of us did. So hang in there and don't worry so much! ;) Good luck to you all next Fall and Spring (w/ college applications)!</p>
<p>Just wondering, APDoolittle, how is your prononciation with all those languages? Does it get confusing juggling all those languages around, especially the ones you didn't grow up learning?</p>
<p>isn't it je ne sais pas quoi ?</p>
<p>sometimes the pas is dropped, especially with idomatic expressions</p>
<p>Exigent, in 10th grade I had all three languages IN A ROW haha (6th, 7th, and 8th periods). I definitely got mixed up once in a while. My pronunciation in the languages is great (according to native speakers abroad). I went to Spain, France, and Morocco for Spring break w/ my school. We took Air France airlines and the attendants LOVED to talk w/ me. All over Spain, I got that my "castellano es impecable" (Believe it or not, they dont call Spanish español in Spain I didnt know that!). In Madrid my group met a group of Italian kids our age, also on a field trip. It was the weirdest thing; my friends were teaching them how to square dance. When I came along, they all clamored, "JON!! He knows Italian!! Jon get over here!!" So I interpreted for everyone and we all still keep in touch. We stayed up 'til like 3 AM in the hotel lobby just chattin' and joking around. Ok, then our final flight was delayed for a day so we had to stay in a Parisian hotel for an extra night. I was able to order food in French and even help non-French speaking clients communicate w/ hotel staff! Needless to say, that Spring break trip made ALL my hard work (in learning languages) worth it (as I was complimented in all 3 languages)! OH, one last anecdote: I have a friend, Anna, in Tuscany. We communicate on AIM (via our microphones sometimes). She says my pronunciation is better than some of her native-Italian friends!! So I hope that answers your questions.</p>
<p>Ilovesoftball44, actually Exigent is right: the "pas" is often dropped. "Je ne sais quoi" is an idiom used in English to mean "a quality or attribute that is difficult to describe or express." Besides, even today's French teens drop the "pas" in informal conversations (especially online, but even in person).</p>
<p>Sorry to digress so much from the OP's topic. So.... how 'bout them 4's on AP Spanish? ;) :D</p>
<p>Does failing the AP Spanish exam look bad on applications if you aren't a native speaker?</p>
<p>Well to sort of add to the thread and support my IB friends out there, I got a 6 on the IB SL exam. However, my teacher was, in fact, terrible, and I don't think i learned anything. i think i actually got worse, and i talk to my family living in colombia in spanish pretty often. sad really.</p>
<p>and on the SAT II, i got a 710, it was sort of both sentence completion and comprehension. i decided to just take it cold, might not have been the best idea but whatever, it wasnt a terrible test, if you are good with grammar and picking similar words apart, you should be fine. evidently the college board thinks im better at spanish than english, and ive lived here forever...</p>
<p>CC24 generally they cut non-native speakers some slack, but it depends on which schools you're looking at. If you're applying to Ivy League schools, like I did, your scores are important; they're one way of discriminating between strong applicants. Non-native speakers who excel in foreign languages tend to be regarded favorably. Just remember that college admissions is a complex process and scores alone do not determine your acceptance (or rejection). Remember to excel in various EC activities and to show them a great personal side (through excellent essays and recommendation letters).</p>
<p>i so so so don't get why spanish speakers want to take spanish classes..</p>
<p>I do it for the easy A and the 5.5 weighted GPA :D</p>
<p>Plus we play matamoscas like everyday [and if you know what this game is then you are one really cool kid :D]</p>