<p>Also, in this country white people are usually not interested in joining white clubs/groups, so if a small number of white people decide to, then people will think there’s something weird going on with them.</p>
<p>Having members who might be racist is not the same thing as a society being racist in itself. Stop trying to keep this nonsensical thread alive.</p>
<p>Congrats on pointing out a very obvious double-standard.</p>
<p>My attitude: such a group is no more inherently racist than the Society of Black Engineers (and I doubt that there are many genuine racists in the SBE) but in this country the reasons for an SBE to form don’t exist for a Society of White Engineers. If you are an ethnic/cultural/racial minority in your field, there’s nothing wrong with wanting to spend time with people who share your culture (and that’s what this is really about, culture, not race). If I went to some ultra-lilly-white LAC in New England where everybody came from old money and wintered in Martinique and Summered in France every year, I would feel EXTREMELY out of place, and if there happened to be a “Society of Middle-America Average Students” you can bet I’d join up. I don’t blame somebody who may for the first time in their life be surrounded by people not of their culture for wanting to be involved with other people they are more comfortable with (not that black people all share the same culture, that in itself is a racist/ignorant viewpoint).</p>
<p>But as a white person in America, I don’t really have that (although I am surrounded by Asians, being an eng. physics major, and that’s just fine with me), I’m the majority. Although I do get involved with Christian groups to be around other Christians, and nerd groups to be around other nerds.</p>
<p>I imagine that if you went to Oxford or Cambridge or schools in Tokyo or Seoul you’d find American Student Clubs or something similar.</p>
<p>OP, you’re a hypocrite. In the other thread, you were criticizing Asians who only like to stick with themselves, but I suppose it is alright if only white people do it?</p>
<p>Calling this is a double standard is like calling it a double standard to say 4 is the correct answer to 2+2 but the wrong answer to 7+5.</p>
<p>You can’t separate standards from the context in which they’re applied.</p>
<p>But I thought 4=π?</p>
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<p>you’re right, i’m a racist white guy</p>
<p>i am talking about the groups, not the people in them</p>
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<p>…not any more racist than any member of another race-oriented professional group, like “Society of Latino Engineers and Scientists.” The Society of White Engineers is not a white-pride group–well, that’s actually more of a semantics issue, and if you say that it is, than SOLES is a Latino-pride group, and similarly for any other such group. In fact, I am certain that the Society of White Engineers is far less racist than (for instance) Mecha, which has the slogan of “For the race–everything. Outside the race–nothing.” We should be condemning Mecha for their blatant racism. Any faults that are possessed by the Society of White Engineers pale in comparison.</p>
<p>In my county, there are numerous Bar Associations. There’s the regular one, the womens’ bar, the groups for the black, Hispanic and Asian lawyers, the group for the Catholic lawyers and the group for the Jewish lawyers. I am white, Jewish and female. The only group I belong to is the regular bar association. I don’t feel the need to associate solely with members of one subgroup and, frankly, I feel I have made better connections by being in the general group. However, just because I don’t belong to the sub-groups doesn’t mean that I think they are racist or sexist.</p>
<p>I couldn’t find the website or anything for the Society of White Engineers… Is it a real organization, or was this just a hypothetical thread?</p>
<p>Gosh, I just realized OP mentioned that in the first post. Excuse me.</p>
<p>just hypothetical</p>