Some Common Problems People Have With Harvard- Just Stereotypes?

<p>There are some common stereotypes (or are they more than that?) of Harvard that I hope some people could address.</p>

<p>-Harvard students are very pretentious, much moreso than other schools. I have heard students are very self-centered. True?</p>

<p>-Harvard students are extremely competitive. I'd like to be able to graduate with a good GPA, but I don't want to spend all of my time studying. Is is possible to have 3.8 or so and not spend 95% of your free time in a library?</p>

<p>-There isn't much of a social life. Parties have to shut down early, etc. Drinks are hard to find. I'd like to spend my weekends having fun, including relaxing with some alcoholic beverages as most college students so. I have heard that this is nearly impossible at Harvard, and, if a drunk underage student is caught, he or she will face severe punishment. This is not the case at other Ivies which do not care as much.</p>

<p>-Harvard students are extremely unattractive, especially compared to other schools. Many of the students are antisocial, unkept, and dirty, and spend most of their spare time studying.</p>

<p>YEP, I'm sure you can find others too.</p>

<p>thats not true. i've seen pics of harvard students and i know some and they are presentable looking and some of them are even really hot</p>

<p>Of course there are exceptions to any generalizations. But to what extent does those traits characterize the 'Vard?</p>

<p>Hmmmm. Good questions.</p>

<p>1) Only some students. That can be found anywhere. On the whole, though, I have found Harvard students to be the least self-centered, most caring, generous people I have ever known. But, yes, some people here are ---holes. They are easily avoidable because they are outnumbered. </p>

<p>2) I don't think it's possible to achieve a 3.8 at many colleges without putting in some serious work for it, depending on what you're studying; that's not specific to Harvard, in my opinion. As far as being competitive--some students certainly are. I would not necessarily associate living in the library with being competitive, though, because many Harvard students simply want/choose/like to work hard. That does not necessarily presume a desire to achieve at a higher level than anyone else, so much as it shows a desire to do as well as they can on their own terms. It'd probably be more fair to say that Harvard students are, on the whole, very self-motivated over-achievers. </p>

<p>But, yes, to be fair, some students here are pretty academically competitive. I wouldn't let it pose any problems for you, though, because levels of motivation here vary.</p>

<p>3) There's a social life. Is it a party school? No -- would you want it to be? There are all kinds of parties here, from the small wine/cheese/Mozart gatherings in your friend's room, to the sweaty dance parties in some stranger's room where it's dark and people are humping against walls, to the parties thrown by clubs in dance halls that are often alcohol-free (but they also often sponsor fun pre-game events . . . ), etc. etc. etc. It all depends on what you want.</p>

<p>As far as parties closing early, I think the better statement is that /Boston/ closes early. Parties shutting down on campus have more to do with where the school is located, in my opinion, than with Harvard in particular. But when we say parties shut down early, it really means LARGE parties. Small gatherings in your room with close friends can last until whenever, as long as you aren't being loud or belligerent. No one will bother you if you're not posing a problem to your neighbors. </p>

<p>4) Harvard students aren't ugly. Some are actually gorgeous. Others . . . well, depends on what you want. Some students are antisocial, but I couldn't tell you if they're dirty or not because I never see them. =) Don't hang around the science center, and you should be fine. (Kidding.) If you're not satisfied with students on campus, though I think you will be because Harvard is pretty attractive overall, there are a ton of colleges in the Boston/Cambridge area--close enough for you to prowl around and find someone off-campus, if it means that much to you.</p>

<p>So, some blanket statements: Harvard students are, overall, socially adjusted people who bathe, brush their teeth, love their mothers, help old ladies cross the street, work hard, but (most empathically) can play hard when they want to. Of course there are people who don't do these things. If this weren't true, the admissions office would be failing at accepting the "most diverse, talented" group of people it could find, wouldn't it? There's a scene for everyone. Kids that love to party, nerds that love textbooks, sketchy artists that love themselves, poets that don't love anything, etc. -- find your scene, and you'll be happy. </p>

<p>Hope that helps.</p>

<p>3) Unfortunately, I have to say this was existent when I visited. When I went to visit a friend one weekend and we went to a Halloween party we couldn't find alcohol anywhere... then again it was a school-run party. We were going to go to a final club but I think it was too late or something? Anyways we just went back to her dorm room with some others and had our own little party. Kind of depressing, but she's 21 I know it won't be the same if I visit again.</p>

<p>4) I'm sure <em>some</em> are ugly... but the ones I met suuureeee won't. The majority of students are fun, interesting, talented people involved in the world. This usually carries beauty with it. Don't worry about being surrounded by fuglies, it's definitely not like that.</p>

<p>1) Baseless stereotype
2) Baseless stereotype
3) I'll break this one down:
'There isn't much of a social life.
Sort of true</p>

<p>Parties have to shut down early, etc.
Sort of true. There is a 2am requirement for shutting down parties.</p>

<p>Drinks are hard to find.
Slightly truer than of some other colleges but not true in an absolute sense.</p>

<p>I'd like to spend my weekends having fun, including relaxing with some alcoholic beverages as most college students so. I have heard that this is nearly impossible at Harvard,
Definitely false.</p>

<p>and, if a drunk underage student is caught, he or she will face severe punishment.
Definitely false.</p>

<p>This is not the case at other Ivies which do not care as much.
Sort of true. I've been to parties at other schools where underage drinking students were taking over the entire hallway--you would not see something like that at Harvard.</p>

<p>4) Baseless stereotype. Actually, a kid in my psych class did a study where she put images of Harvard students (one male and one female) on hotornot.com. In one set of images, the students were wearing Harvard shirts. In the other set, the word "Harvard" was Photoshopped out. The male student was rated several points more attractive on average with the Harvard shirt, while the female student was rated several points lower when she was wearing it.</p>

<p>Phoenixy - the bit about the study is very interesting!</p>

<p>You know what they say... stereotypes come from generalized truth. Though, some of those truths are old.</p>

<p>But, about trying to get a high GPA: I guess you haven't heard about their grade inflation problem (Harvard along with most other large universities have this problem). That's all I could really tell you.</p>

<p>How does grade inflation work?</p>

<p>Basically, most of the grades people get are higher than they should be. Again, this is not only a problem at Harvard, but at most large research universities where tenure is based almost soley on research/publications/inventions/theories/etc.</p>

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You know what they say... stereotypes come from generalized truth.

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Or from bitter people who want to bash a school they couldn't get into.</p>

<p>I think the grade inflation at Harvard stems from the extremely high caliber of all of the students.</p>

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You know what they say... stereotypes come from generalized truth.</p>

<p>Or from bitter people who want to bash a school they couldn't get into.</p>

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<p>You forgot to include the sentence after which states "though, some of those truths are OLD," meaning people still use old truth to conger the same stereotypes. </p>

<p>And, about getting in:
I'm not even sure if I'm in! LOL. I got an email saying I did, a letter saying no... So, I can say that I DID get an acceptance letter via email, but am not sure if I actually got accepted.</p>

<p>and, sometimes, from the students themselves.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2005/03/29/student_life_at_harvard_lags_peer_schools_poll_finds/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2005/03/29/student_life_at_harvard_lags_peer_schools_poll_finds/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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I think the grade inflation at Harvard stems from the extremely high caliber of all of the students.

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<p>Generally, if you want a bell curve, most kids should get Bs and Cs, whether or not the students are smart. At Harvard, most get A's and B's. So instead of looking like a bell curve, i guess it would look more like a ramp.. lol.</p>

<p>For everything you need to know about grade inflation, visit gradeinflation.org</p>

<p>That is the furthest thing from the truth....it used to be the case but now it is extremely hard to get an A, or an A-...only a small percentage of the class can receive A's. You should get the facts straight before posting.</p>

<p>I think it'd be more accurate to say that most students get Bs. But getting As here is difficult.</p>

<p>Sorry! My info was obviously old or exaggerated. Or both. I was just reporting what I'd been told by someone who graduated back in '04, so it's been a while.</p>