Some firms still recruit students hard

<p>Good to be in high demand.</p>

<p><a href="http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023920010_internhousingperksxml.html"&gt;http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023920010_internhousingperksxml.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Thanks for making me cry about what a loser in life I am. :wink: I will never in my life come close to making what Masi makes at 22.</p>

<p>Housing is a lot cheaper in Seattle then Silicon Valley or S.F.</p>

<p>Newer apts near downtown go for $2K for a nice 1 BR. </p>

<p>This will make you cry, too. $93k starting salary for 22 year olds fresh out of college (and this was a year ago…).</p>

<p><a href=“http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/BL-ATWORKB-904”>http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/BL-ATWORKB-904&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>… I picked the wrong major.</p>

<p>Son got lucky- something he likes and is good at pays well in the Midwest as well. That around 2K apt in Seattle near work is correct. Walking to work, paying megabucks for a place your car. No air conditioning even in new builds. </p>

<p>Seattle is by NO MEANS inexpensive. The housing market in Seattle proper has finally caught up with California. Drat!!!</p>

<p>Yeah, the prospects for the young 'uns graduating these days have improved. Lake Jr. tells me there were scores of employers large and small at the recent career fairs he attended.</p>

<p>They do have AC in the new buildings. Typical non highrise project. Many choose not to own a car as parking $$$ and there are many alts-Uber/Lyft,public transit, on street car rentals.</p>

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<p>No, they don’t. High rise built within past 2 or 3 years does not and charges near 2K. Some may but not all.</p>

<p>Many SV companies also give housing or stipend. My dd didn’t intern in undergrad (did research to prepare for grad school), but did do such internship as a grad student and did have housing offered (not sure but I think it was dorm style) but took the stipend instead. They pay grad students even more. I got to go in one day and have lunch at the mind boggling themed and stand alone offerings, froz yogurt machine, heated selection of cookies and espresso machine, and go down the slide from one floor to another and take pics in the photobooth.</p>

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<p>It seems like the market reward those with strong mathematical abilities.</p>

<p>This is nothing new, of course. I remember Fischer Black’s income jumped from 25 thousand a year at MIT to a million at Goldman back in the 1970s. </p>

<p>Always wonder what a Terrence Tao is worth if he decides to test the market.</p>

<p>I still see Terrence Tao name on a lot of top 1% research list from UCLA. I think he might like research too much.</p>

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<p>I really don’t think you need any “real” math stuffs in s/w job. A niece just graduated with a BA degree in CS (very light math and physical science requirement) and she is making over $100K. You really need to be good with algorithms and, in my opinion, is not “math”.</p>

<p>^^Mathematics is an excellent proxy for “candle power”. I bet your niece has a lot of “candle power” for a firm to pay her that kind of money. I am not surprised really, just look at where computer science ranks in the grand scheme of things: </p>

<p><a href=“CARPE DIEM”>http://mjperry.blogspot.com/search?q=GRE+scores&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Call me a meddler or a helicopter parent but I shudder when I think that my engineering major kid might forgo STEM for a career in finance or the like. Ugh!!! On the bright side, the two “heroes” at the sleazy Wall Street firm in the movie ‘Margin Call’ were trained engineers. I guess even bankers need Differential Equations explained to them (by 22 year-olds, no less).</p>

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<p>Agreed, but there is a big overlap, which is mostly logic ability. </p>

<p>CanuckGuys chart is not encouraging as it relates to public administration and education. Maybe there are somethings that need further explanation, as it ranks business and medicine low as well. </p>

<p>^^It is definitely logical reasoning ability… Even if we were to substitute GRE with the LSAT, some of the usual suspects such as math, physics, and economics continue to outperform when they really should not:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.phil.ufl.edu/ugrad/whatis/LSATtable.html”>http://www.phil.ufl.edu/ugrad/whatis/LSATtable.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>There is no doubt the “g” factor is at work, and that employers are willing to pay good money for it.
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I don’t believe serious business or medical prospects would be writing the GRE. Would they not be doing the GMAT and the MCAT instead? Notice also in the LSAT list they use “health profession” instead of medicine. Bad choice of vocabulary perhaps?</p>

<p>As a point of interest, business and education are highly competitive programs in my corner of the Great White North. So, there are cultural factors at play and some of these scores are not applicable outside the US.</p>

<p>a friend of mine graduated ucla with a cs major (had a high gpa) got into microsoft is starting at 110k per year.</p>

<p>Talking about recruiting hard:</p>

<p><a href=“Wall Street Banks and Private Equity Firms Compete for Young Talent - The New York Times”>Wall Street Banks and Private Equity Firms Compete for Young Talent - The New York Times;