@Fredjan@PurpleTitan
My point was serious. Berkeley and schools of its ilk are elite ACADEMICALLY, but do not carry much SOCIAL prestige. You can get a job at most good large companies from berkeley but you’ll still be viewed as not elite socially within the company by grads of elite schools.
Do you not believe stanford or harvard grads are exclusive to others? Why do you think snpachat has hired almost exclusively from elite schools? Or FB in its early years?
Google Why do CMU CS grads have an inferiority complex and read the Quora answer.
“Stanford was comparatively a country club”. Exactly the social prestige. Why do you think so many students (and their parents) want them to go a brand name school?
@theanaconda, let me put this in perspective:
Why do you think Goldman Sachs has so many alumni from Rutgers, Cuny, and Cornell?
The recruitment from Snapchat and early Facebook occurs due to Stanford’s proximity; even the Business Insider link mentions that.
wrt social prestige: really?
As a low income student, I’d have applied to Stanford just for another chance at a great financial aid package. However, another university came through during the ED round, so I ended up not applying to Stanford.
Yes Fredjan they do use different admission criteria because their goal is to admit students who could otherwise never gain admission to any top level school. Two years of CC doesn’t change anything. These students still have the same core intelligence as the they did when they scored 1700 on the SAT. The system as I said was set up entirely to get around prop 209. So for instance a student that initially attends say any good school can almost never transfer back to a top UC. This is because these schools consider a 3.6 from say Duke to be inferior to a 3.9 from CC. So in essence the only students that can ever transfer into a UC come from CC where its relatively easy to get a 4.0. Because of this policy UCB has lost much of the prestige it once had at the undergraduate level. They pride themselves on having 40% of the student body being the first in their family to attend college rather than admitting the best qualified students.
@theanaconda, I’m also serious when I say that you don’t know how the world works.
For what it’s worth, I know folks who have become rich from start-ups and folks who have started companies and sold them for millions. Some of them when to Ivies and some of them went to state schools.
I find it really annoying when someone acts like they know something but shows their ignorance when they start speaking.
re #41:
"Why do you think Goldman Sachs has so many alumni from Rutgers, Cuny, and “Cornell?”
Don"t know about now, but back some time ago I’m not sure they did really have all that many alumni from those three schools. To the extent they did, the first two would probably be mostly due to filling IT/back office positions.Some Cornell people would likely be found in HR, but most of the rest would be in line positions, where they were likely less represented than most of the other Ivy League schools. Most of which were also, by the way, closer to NYC than Cornell is, if that’s the connection you were attempting to make. Ithaca NY is 4-5 hours away from NYC.