Sophmore Housing Options

<p>Can someone explain to me how housing assignments work for your sophmore (and so on) year? And where do most sophmores live? Thanks.</p>

<p>Most sophomores will end up in Morewood, Fairfax, or Shady Oak - at least, that’s where almost everyone I know ended up.</p>

<p>As for room draw information - [Room</a> Selection explained - The Tartan Online](<a href=“http://thetartan.org/2011/2/14/special/specialinterest]Room”>Room Selection explained - The Tartan)</p>

<p>That’ll help out with clarifying some things, hopefully. if you have further questions, ask them here and I’ll do my best to answer.</p>

<p>some sophomores will also end up in doherty/webster apartments. the most desired residences are usually roselawn (private house) and resnik/west wing, but it is hard for sophomores to get into these without being pulled in by a friend already living there</p>

<p>edit: also, although i assume since you’re asking this does not apply, but many sophomores will move into their respective greek houses if they joined as freshmen</p>

<p>Does anyone know how hard it is to get an apartment in Woodlawn as a sophomore? My friends and I think it would work really well for us, but we can’t really seem to figure out if lots of people want to live there or if there’s a chance we might get it…</p>

<p>your chances are very low as freshmen. Woodlawn is highly coveted because The Frame is in the basement, and you can’t go for block housing there. </p>

<p>You might be able to get a free double if you’re lucky and pull in one of your friends, but that would only be one double, and not a full apartment.</p>

<p>Some Sophomores try to do a Housing Block /special interest project-- and a few are successful-- 30 people write a proposal to do something and reside in Morewood or Mudge. Kate - you’re doing that this year right?</p>

<p>Sophomores have historically been screwed the past few years as the enrollment of freshman class has increased. But that may not be the case this year as the new freshman dorm “rez on 5th” took a lot of pressure off freshman housing.</p>

<p>Sophomores are last in line.<br>
As noted, most end up in Morewood. West wing and resnick are pricey and go to upperclassmen-- there’s only a few hundred spaces there.</p>

<p>BE WARNED-- DO NOT LIVE OFF CAMPUS unless you can accept the fact that once you move off campus you have 0% chance of returning to CMU housing. If you leave, you are placed at the end of the lottery – and behind freshman. So once off, you’re off forever. You cannot be “pulled in” by another student living in on-campus housing.<br>
The decision to leave campus housing should not be made lightly (spoken by a parent who had to bribe Sophomore D two years ago to remain on campus --good thing she did b/c her friends lost heat/hot water during winter finals and the landlord didn’t want to pay the added fees for an after-hours weekend repair visit – so they weekend of finals they had to bunk with friends on campus.) Not all landlords are slumlords, but IMHO - the convenience of having CMU guaranteed heat, electricity, hot water, security and reliable internet 24/7 is worth the price relative to the perceived gains from living in an off-campus apartment.</p>

<p>I definitely wouldn’t recommend special interest housing in Mudge to anyone, even my worst enemy. At the worst points of the year I was considering moving out altogether and finding an apartment with other friends.</p>

<p>Here’s why SIH and block housing can fail easily, in a nutshell:</p>

<p>Block housing requires that you live with a large quantity of people, and the connections and theatrics that come along with that group are especially concentrated in college (where you see each other every day.) My housing situation has been miserable this year, and I was totally happy in my quad last year. I’m moving back in with one of my quad roomies next year.</p>

<p>For some reason, Sophomore Syndrome gets intensified in groups, especially with girls. Wait until junior year. You’ll have figured out living with people much better and it’ll be a more satisfying experience. For now, live in a double or triple and be a normal person.</p>

<p>Also, there was literally no support for any of our events from the Mudge staff this year. We had to fight to get the staff to actually send an email when we were trying to host events. The housefellow is an awesome guy, but he just doesn’t give a **** about SIH. If you want to do SIH, do it somewhere else. Morewood, maybe.</p>

<p>[edit]: Adding on to what I said above, just try and avoid Sophomore Syndrome as a whole. Don’t move in with someone if you know they have tendencies that clash with yours, even if you’re great friends. For example, I’m a neat freak who loves doing dishes, and my housemates are absolute slobs who leave rotting meat in the sink. It’s a bad combo. Avoid it.</p>

<p>My soon to be sophmore son wants to move off campus. He has not been a big fan of dorm living and eating on campus. SO I am pretty certain he would prefer off campus housing but is it really worth sticking out another year of on campus living for junior and sophmore CMU housing options? Thanks.</p>

<p>After the freshman year, there’s no connection between the meal plan and housing.
Your S can live off campus and take a meal plan (including some that are simply dollars spent anywhere anytime rather than blocks) or he can live on campus with no meal plan. Or off campus with no meal plan.</p>

<p>If money is not a concern, then off campus living is less restricted-- he can find an apartment that doesn’t seem to be run down student housing. A reliable unit with heat, hot water and internet in a safe location is the goal-- but you knew that. It’s also important to know if the roommates have $$ issues-- b/c if someone stops paying the bill-- your S is liable.
THe jnr housing options in Resnick and Westwing are very expensive-- more so than getting a nice apartment with friends. Convenient but terribly overpriced. You get 2 doubles and a single with a small shared living space - no kitchen. Kitchens are in the housing such as Cat-man.</p>

<p>My S joined a frat so he’s going to move in there sophomore year. He will not be taking any meal plan through CMU and just using cash as he goes. We warned him that if the frat doesn’t work out- he’s off campus by junior year. D is going off campus as a senior – 2 bedroom 4 girls-- I googled the address and chills went up my spine! (I hope she enjoys the members of insect family she’ll be sharing her place with …yuck)</p>

<p>Once off - you’re off for good - this is the concern about leaving that early in the game.</p>

<p>Many of my friends in Mudge pledged various frats in the fall or this semester.
I am hoping to move into my frat b/c I would like to but also b/c I fear the results of room draw as a sophomore.</p>

<p>Hey Kate, what’s sophomore syndrome? I hadn’t heard of that back when I was there.</p>

<p>I hadn’t heard the term either until I started talking to my upperclassmen friends about my situation. I forget who called it that, but it seems appropriate.</p>

<p>I lived on a floor with a few other girls whom I had started hanging out with during Orientation. We got along and had fun times and partied together occasionally, and we spent pretty much every spare moment in each others’ rooms. We became close friends, so we decided to live together.</p>

<p>Then, in the beginning of the year, I kind of realized that the main reason we’d been such good friends was because… we lived next door to each other. And it turns out we don’t actually have that much in common. In fact, we’re very different, fundamentally. :stuck_out_tongue: And our living styles clash horribly - my housemates are ok with mess, and I’d prefer not to have pizza growing fuzz on the kitchen table. They like TV shows, I like video games. They’re crazy on the frat scene, and I’d prefer to hit up a quiet bar with my boyfriend and company. We still get along, of course, but we just aren’t close friends the way we were all of freshman year.</p>

<p>I see that this has been the case with other friend groups who started out during Orientation, so I’m guessing it’s more common than I previously thought.</p>

<p>DS and friends wanted a triple (cost) which limited the location and # of rooms available.
He then scouted the rooms by the most direct method - knocking on the doors. Then he asked if the room was going to be vacated for the next year. As the lottery came up, each friend list the same 1,2,3 preferences. The roommate with the best lottery #, pulled in the other two roommates. </p>

<p>DS preferred dorm living because of its location and its predictablity. No meal plan after freshman year. His roommates had the same ME major but different EC’s. They remain very good friends and make visitations.</p>

<p>Ahh, gotcha kate. I actually wound up living on the same hall with a bunch of my friends throughout undergrad (from Donner to Scobel to Shady Oak), though I guess I did room with the same guy for three years (he was my neighbor freshman year). Maybe we just got lucky, though.</p>

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<p>Compromise and watch sc2 broadcasts. obv</p>

<p>D called last night talking about housing options. Her question is whether a sophomore has a chance at getting a single (she’s currently a freshman)? Also, she read all the info. but was still wondering how the lottery works. Do the numbers start at 1 so the higher the number after 1, the later you are in the lottery? Also, do all the future seniors get the first group of numbers and then the juniors and then the sophomores or are they all mixed in?</p>

<p>It’s all explained in the link Kate posted, I posted it again.
IMHO, Your D will get more information on campus speaking to her RA and friends there rather than through CC.</p>

<p>The bottom line-- unless she’s been pulled in by someone else retaining, she’s in “General Room Selection” and at that point, it’s doubtful a single would be left for a Sophomore.</p>

<p>Sophomore’s pick last - after juniors and seniors. The numbers go down hill in that order. It’s randomly assigned, but by class level-- just the same way registration works – seniors pick first and so on.
There are very few singles in the dorms to begin with - but you never know. It’s risky b/c when her number comes up if there’s no single rooms left, she has to pick a double-- and then if she has no one interested, then she gets a stranger placed in the room. If she takes a double by herself, there will certainly be someone placed in that double at some point.
It is probably wise to seek out a friend to room with next year.</p>

<p>[Housing</a> and Dining Services - Room Selection - Carnegie Mellon University](<a href=“http://www.cmu.edu/housing/roomselection/]Housing”>http://www.cmu.edu/housing/roomselection/)</p>

<p>Pay attention to this piece:
Room Selection Numbers</p>

<p>Room Selection Numbers (formerly known as “lottery” or “room draw” numbers) will only be distributed to those residents who Elect to Participate and plan to participate in General Room Selection. Any resident who is eligible for Room Selection that hasn’t already selected an assignment (through the retention, pull-in, block housing, or RA/CA selection processes) can complete the Elect the Participate step the week before General Room Selection. At this time, residents will be asked to sign their Housing License Agreements and will request a Room Selection number, which will be sent out on Friday, April 1, 2011. </p>

<p>Residents who have already selected an assignment for the fall semester will not be able to Elect to Participate.</p>

<p>General Room Selection
General Room Selection is the final phase of Room Selection - it’s the process where all remaining eligible residents who haven’t yet selected a room choose from the remaining available spaces. Students who “Elect to Participate” by signing a Housing License Agreement receive a random Room Selection number within their class (first-year, sophomore, or junior), which determines the date and time when they select their housing assignment for the following academic year.</p>

<p>General Room Selection takes place in the West Wing Rec Room. Residents should plan to arrive about 10 minutes to their scheduled start time.
Dates to Remember:</p>

<p>March 27, 2011 @ 9 a.m. through March 31, 2011 @ 5 p.m. - Elect to Participate (sign Housing License Agreement and request Room Selection number)</p>

<p>April 4, 2011 and April 6, 2011 - General Room Selection</p>

<p>Thanks. She has the info. Kate posted. Just trying to figure out what the numbers mean. If her number is 50, does that mean that she is the 50th person to pick? Her friends are asking the same question. Not sure why they don’t ask an upperclassman…I’m hoping that someone on here has been through it and knows the answer.</p>

<p>50 is an excellent number-- she’s the 50th sophomore to pick.</p>

<p>One of my D’s friends last year had 222 and she felt like she was very luckly. She pulled in a friend and they picked something in Fairfax…but oddly, they both got stuck somewhere else.</p>

<p>There are still all the juniors and seniors in front of her…and all the block housing, those pulled in, those retaining…but as a sophomore, picking 50th is excellent. If there’s a single remaining - and very likely not the case, she’d get one. There may be singles left inside others’ suites-- she should find someone who has a suite and perhaps no one wants the single - that is one of the pricey options- single inside a suite.</p>

<p>It’s a little late now, but there’s a program in Mudge that offers singles to sophomores. However, the deadline to apply has passed.</p>

<p>Her chances of getting a single within a suite are next to none if she doesn’t know the people who live in the suite. Have her ask around and see what her friends are doing; they might be interested in giving her a single if any of them have selected block housing (and are losing a member of their group/need another member).</p>