<p>"I think dues are about $3000"</p>
<p>is it really that much??</p>
<p>I am not positive about the dues, I paid in full when the year started so I haven't had to worry about that for a while. When (or if) you go through rush, the individual houses will let you know what the yearly costs are. However, I do know that it is cheaper to live in the house than in the dorms</p>
<p>how many girls get chosen to live in the house? Is there an application process for that ella??</p>
<p>what frat is the best known/attracts the best girls? lol</p>
<p>maybe you shouldn't worry about partying so much, huh, bill5. Don't think your dad would like that.</p>
<p>I will be honest and say there are many good things about sororities, and many bad things, and ultimately the bad is what prevented me from joining one. (I did rush bytheway and have friends that are involved in Greek life--some super heavily, one is social chair of her's etc...) </p>
<p>It REALLY depends on you as an individual. If you don't have trouble meeting people, making friends, and the big size of UCLA doesn't intimidate you, then don't be made to believe Greek life is essential for you to be happy and adjusted. Embrace the fact that you don't have to pay thousands of dollars in dues and be pushed into a set group in order to meet the big school challenges, meet guys, and make great friends. If you are worried about all these things however, a sorority can only help you. </p>
<p>If you tended to stick to one group in high school, then a sorority provides that constant/stable "group of friends to hang out with." (this is not to say sorority girls don't hang out with people outside their sorority---but by the time they move into their houses, some sort of...dissappear and spend the vast majority of time with girls int heir house. again, it's what you make of it.) If you're not living in the house, you'll still always have a girls to eat with, walk with, go to class with, do homework with, shop with (etc...but hey, you can find people to do all those things with without being in one, it's just practically guaranteed if you are)</p>
<p>If you float around, don't tend to stick with one group, like meeting tons of people, interested in a lots of on campus clubs etc... then a sorority might be limiting esp. your first quarter. however, some sorority girls are super involved in other things, and then there are those that are hardly involved in their sorority at all, never live in the house, and so obviously their sorority life doesn't limit them. </p>
<p>If you party and can't bear the idea of not getting into a frat party--joining a sorority will help you out in this area immensely . However, this comes straight from a words of a frat guy I know: If you're hot and dressed (haha or undressed) well enough, you can probably get in without having your name on "the list." (Bytheway this goes for the super exclusive parties) Some frats just accept anyone that's female and don't care about the list. This poses more of an issue if you're a guy.</p>
<p>Be prepared that in joining a sorority, you will often have a stereotype attached to you based on whichever one you're in. ("the blonde one" the "druggie one" the "hardcore party-ier one" "the classier partier one" "the weird one" etc...etc...) Also, there are practically status levels as to how "good and popular" your sorority is. The "top ones" do more stuff with the "hotter, popular" frats. The "bottom ones" get stuck with the "nerdy" frats?
--- And if you break that stereotype, you'll be known as the "odd one" that breaks the mold. (sometimes that can be considered a good thing?) if you don't care what people think of you (which you shouldn't LoL) then it doesn't matter--but I woudl think it gets exhausting to be defined by an image and have to go around everywhere trying to break the negative connotation that might come with having your name attached to a sorority. It's almost as if people make you prove your individuality or the fact that you're not typical. </p>
<p>By the same token, there are plenty of "typical sorority girls" I know that are NOT in sororities LoL. </p>
<p>And no matter what people say: yes you can form deep, personal, friendships with people within a sorority and bonds with your sisters---but this doesn't take away from the additional superficial pressures, ideas, rivalries (I was told by one girl that her sorority sings degrading songs about the other sororities on the bus---sure these can be pure jokes, but I find it kind of ridiculous?) and images that define the sorority experience. Rush, I don't care WHAT people say..is SUPERFICIAL LoL. It's not just about how "nice" and "intelligent" you sound---a lot of it is based on whether your look fits their liking. </p>
<p>I'll be honest and say Rush is the main reason why I'm anti sorority. I never saw myself as someone who can only relate to a certain "type" of girl or with a single-dimensional personality that just doesn't "click" with other people. The purpose of rush is to see "what type of person you are, and what type of people you'd click with." (as if anyone has a right to claim they know enougha bout you in a 15 minute convo.) By joining one, I would feel as if I'm attesting to those things. I form close bonds on an individual basis, not a member of a group basis. I don't appreciate having to prove your diversity with statements like "just cuz we have the same hair color, doesn't mean we have the same major" ---I don't only hang out with people who are similar to me. (I'm not saying that sorority girls all do or anything) Plus, even if sorority life is not dominated by superficiality after rush, rush is shallow enough for me to want to dissociate myself not only from the process, but Greek life entirely. I don't like to be part of something that espouses values I have no interest in even pretending to espouse. </p>
<p>Don't let what I say discourage you from rushing if you're interested though, see for yourself--and if you don't mind what goes on, then maybe Greek life IS right for you.</p>
<p>I also didn't like the clickiness WITHIN some of the sororities. During rush, I blatantly asked one girl "do you get along with everyone int he house" and the response I got (surprisingly honest was--honesty is very RARE in rush at least because there is literally a list of topics girls in the house are given that they can't talk about) "Maybe about 80% of them" I'd liket o think college is where you move on from high school and that rush was supposed to make sure "you fit in with everyone--certainly at least within your house?" Plus, if you live in the house, you have no choice but to live with those people you might have had "drama" with. If you're not in a sorority, then you decide, where you live, and who you want to surround yourself with. </p>
<p>If you're not good at balancing time and prioritizing--this can be a problem, again especially your first quarter when you're just beginning to adjust to the academic demands of college. However, I know plenty of sorority girls that do the partying and still get awesome grades. (I also know people that dropped out because their grades were awful.)</p>
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<p>how many girls get chosen to live in the house? Is there an application process for that ella??</p>
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<p>well in my house, it is based on whoever gets their housing contract in first. most houses have around 50 girls living in and choose room assignments based on a points system. so, the more involved you are, the better room you get</p>
<p>what sororities have the best looking girls?</p>
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<p>what sororities have the best looking girls?</p>
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<p>there is no way to objectively answer that question :)</p>
<p>do you know which sorority seems to have the most party type girls? Because I dont want to be in a sorority that spends practically all their time partying.</p>
<p>Kappa Alpha Theta and Kappa Kappa Gamma are the most exclusive to get into. Gamma Phi Beta, Alpha Epsilon Phi, and Delta Delta Delta are the least exclusive. You'll tend to find a more diverse sisterhood in the middler sororities. I would recommend Chi Omega, Kappa Delta, and DG based off the experiences of my friends.</p>
<p>msbhavinbrit, they ALL party LoL. That's the point. Just know that that's what your mainly paying for your first year. (Second year and beyond, you might be paying for housing/food and it's cheaper than the dorms) Someone might say "oh but partying isn't all you're getting out of it--you get friends!" (well I certainly hope that's not what they say, becuase then you'd be buying friends.) </p>
<p>It really depends on what you make of it. Some girls I know barely spend anytime with their sorority in terms of parties/raids, but go to all the bonding events, meals, etc...But honestly, partying IS the number 1 activity sorority girls do together and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. All the other things are secondary.</p>
<p>Frat boys and sorority girls... :rolleyes:</p>
<p>I'm in a frat on Gayley and I'll give you a rundown of the top houses from my person experience.</p>
<p>It's true, btw, that Fall Sorority Rush is pretty superficial. You gotta look good and dress well. It's because over 500 girls rush that the upper-tier houses can pick people purely on how hot you are. Think about it, if there is a choice between a funny, smart girl and a HOT, funny, smart girl, which do you think realistically will have a better chance of being picked. Sororities like to maintain a good reputation. Anyways, here's the rundown.</p>
<p>These are the upper-tier houses.</p>
<p>Kappa Kappa Gamma - Most exclusive, hot girls.
Thetas - Possibly tied for most exclusive, hot girls.
Alpha Phi - Hot girls.
Chi Omega - My personal favorite, they don't seem to have that elitiist attitude. Hot.
Pi Phi - The party girls. Hot.
Delta Gamma - They're fun and cute.</p>
<p>Yup that list is pretty much how it goes! :)</p>
<p>what frats get the most girls? straight up answer.</p>
<p>Each sorority/group views the frats differently. From my experiences, the most "popular" would be SAE, Phi Psi, Sig Pi, and Sig Ep. Although, for some reason my pledge class is somewhat obsessed with Pike. It really really depends.</p>
<p>sae is hot at la?</p>
<p>SAE is seen as your "typical" frat house by alot of people. You kinda either love them or hate them.</p>
<p>Eh...</p>
<p>The girls like SAE but the other frats don't respect them. They're your poppin' collar, rich boys.</p>