Sororities that are judged "for losers" are winners!!

<p>away2school: sorority life at your school is known for being quite difficult (I was going to say something else but the mods would have bleeped me out with asteriks)…</p>

<p>Good for you that you found people you are comfortable with; I know WAY too many people who dropped out of the process there because they couldn’t hack it…</p>

<p>btw, I don’t think it is like this everywhere; but it does seem like sorority rush is never a fun process…</p>

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<p>Depauw Univ., Delta Zeta</p>

<p>Just found it and see that a neighbor is the Panhellenic President.</p>

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<p>This doesnt really stop in college btw. People judge coworkers, neighbors, etc. on their looks too.</p>

<p>OP:
First you need to understand that sororities are neither winners nor losers but just have different characteristics.
There are some characteristics that are more in demand at college than others which might make some sororities more popular than others.
Not all girls think similarly and so not all girls will like to be part of all the sororities. So if you indicate your sorority accepts everyone then it might mean that your sorority lacks a distinctive character.
You must be familiar with the saying “birds of a feather flock together”. That’s what the basis of sorority culture.
So, if you’re happy with your sorority then how does it matter what the perception of it is in the outside world?</p>

<p>Taller better looking people tend to earn more AND are smarter.</p>

<p>Taller workers receive a substantial wage premium. Studies extending back to the middle of the last century attribute the premium to non-cognitive abilities, which are associated with stature and rewarded in the labor market. More recent research argues that cognitive abilities explain the stature-wage relationship. This paper reconciles the competing views by recognizing that net nutrition, a major determinant of adult height, is integral to our cognitive and non-cognitive development. Using data from Britain’s National Childhood Development Study (NCDS), we show that taller children have higher average cognitive and non-cognitive test scores, and that each aptitude accounts for a substantial and roughly equal portion of the stature premium. Together these abilities explain why taller people have higher wages</p>

<p>Science, tell me I’m not only pretty, but really smart: “AS if they didn’t have it easy enough already, good-looking people are also the cleverest, a new study has revealed. The research found handsome men scored 13.6 points above the average IQ score of 100. And beautiful women were 11.4 points above the norm, according to the London School of Economics.” Study author Satoshi Kanazawa theorizes that smart, good-looking people like to do sex to each other, resulting in smart, good-looking babies who will grow up wanting to do sex to other smart-good looking grown-up babies, in essence keeping all the smart, good-looking genes in the same pool. Kanazawa cautions, “our contention that beautiful people are more intelligent is purely scientific. It is not a prescription for how to treat or judge others.” Which, uh, good luck with that.</p>

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<p>This is a red flag and makes yourself as sour person and shows your thinking is very shallow. There is more to “popular sororities” than meets the eye. </p>

<p>From my analysis the popular sorority girls are aggressive, self conscious, with sense of dressing and style, and aspiratory. </p>

<p>I think those are the qualities that interests the fraternities.</p>

<p>Maybe it varies from college to college and my analysis is only based on DD college experience.</p>

<p>I am a parent, not a student, and I never went through rush nor ever considered joining a sorority when I was in college. (I had no idea what a sorority was or why/how someone would join one back then.)</p>

<p>HOWEVER, I can tell the OP that experience has taught me that you are not going to be happy if you let other people “rate” or label you, and depend on their approval or affirmation for happiness. If you are a happy member of your sorority, why would you care what anyone else thinks? And why would you be thinking others are rating you and your friends negatively? (You said you have your sorority referred to as being “for losers.” From who?) Did someone say something disparaging to your face? If not, stop hurting yourself by dwelling on imagined slights, especially if the slights are being perpetuated /generated by people within your sorority who are angry at the world.</p>

<p>And if someone did or does say something negative to you about your sorority – that’s when you tell them what a great group of young women you are lucky enough to live with. If someone does not have the guts to say something to your face, why would you give a second- or third-hand slight any credibility?!</p>

<p>Just curious, do sororities rate the fraternities?</p>

<p>^^^: In my knowledge they do. Again it’s based on DD college experience because not all Fraternities are invited to sororities parties.</p>

<p>I guess my little girl ideas the way I was raised was to include everyone and be kind to others and treat other people the way I would want to be treated. That IS how I am but this whole sorority rating really bothers me…because it rates people according to a terrible set of “rules.”</p>

<p>And, yes, people DO respond in a certain way when I tell them what sorority I am in. They say “oh,” and kinda smirk. When I was going through the whole process, people openly discussed the sororities that were the “loser” ones. I even had one girl who was going for late snap bids tell me that she wasn’t even going to visit mine.</p>

<p>^^it is truly unfortunate that the school you attend then does not reflect your value system…that is why “fit” is such an elusive concept in college admissions…</p>

<p>but if you are happy, you really should not care what other people say…assuming you are happy??</p>

<p>A former friend (adult) of mine and her daughter “studied” all the houses at her university prior to recruitment. They looked online for all the comments that they could find about her university. </p>

<p>Based on gossip they ascertained that there were certain houses that the girl could pledge. After all, since my daughter went through a month before her daughter was entitled to as good an outcome. And, we’ll just say she didn’t get her top choices and dropped out of rush.</p>

<p>Mom still maintains that her roommate didn’t get asked out by a certain guy because she was in abba zabba sorority. Nonsense. The incident didn’t happen or this is an act of fiction to bolster a thin ego due to lack of the right sorority.</p>

<p>A good college experience includes finding people that you can be friends with and relate. And if someone won’t befriend you/date you/ridicules you because you are/not Greek/young Republican/Democrat/lacrosse player whatever…move on.</p>

<p>What goes on inside the house and the friendships made are important. NOT the ranking made by anonymous sources.</p>

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<p>True, but it fades a bit over time. It’s less of a Big Deal in college and lesser still once you graduate and get out into the real world. For example many of the uncool kids who couldn’t get date much less a real BF or GF in high school do much better in college and beyond. Most, like me, even get married eventually.</p>

<p>While the cool/uncool divide never goes entirely away, what the college Greek social scene commonly does is maintain it at the same intensity, same importance, and same level of drama that existed back in high school.</p>

<p>I don’t think those ratings existed when I was in a sorority. My entire school’s rep was for having smart, but not so hot, women so it wouldn’t have mattered. I was in what was considered one of the top 4 sororities on campus, but we were a very eclectic group so I don’t even know exactly what “top” signified. It was probably based more on the reputation nationally. We were supposed to all be blond and beautiful. We certainly didn’t waste our time talking about the other sororities though. Maybe they thought we did though.</p>

<p>Just to point out again…</p>

<p>I guess my little girl ideas the way I was raised was to include everyone and be kind to others and treat other people the way I would want to be treated. That IS how I am but this whole sorority rating really bothers me…because it rates people according to a terrible set of “rules.”</p>

<p>And, yes, people DO respond in a certain way when I tell them what sorority I am in. They say “oh,” and kinda smirk. When I was going through the whole process, people openly discussed the sororities that were the “loser” ones. I even had one girl who was going for late snap bids tell me that she wasn’t even going to visit mine.</p>

<p>away2school: You’re obsessing too much about something that is not so important. If you are raised as you say

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<p>Then you should not be bothered about what other sororities do and don’t do. </p>

<p>There are lots of students that pick Ivies just because these belong to a sports league with no apparent relation to academics. Would you have problem with all such people too? These Ivies disproportionately admits private prep school students over public school children. Do you have problem with these institutes too?</p>

<p>If not then why do you have so much problem with sororities and how they pick up their members.</p>

<p>If you are still obsessing then check out the ranking of frat/sororities here</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.greekrank.com/[/url]”>http://www.greekrank.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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Like, uh, calling them easy, shallow, and mean?</p>

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Nuff said. IMHO it’s probably time to get over your bitterness at the other sororities and get on with your life.</p>

<p>Uhh, greekrank is the worst. It is the problem afer all. Not everyone will think your sorority is great. You may not be the first house the fraternities think about for mixers or 4-ways, but that isn’t why you are in the house, is it? When people smirk or are surprised that you are in your house, just smile and say that you have strong sisterhood. I came from a school that was very competitive and very aware of image. funny thing is, some of the girls that “wouldn’t be caught dead” at Alpha Beta during rush were begging to belong as sophomores when they didn’t get any house during recruitment. I didn’t look down on those girls that didn’t get into a “popular” house, because anyone who hs gone through recruitment knows how random the process can be. The first few rounds are a sea of little cocktail party conversations, and it isn’t until the later rounds that you can really begin to connect. I also learned early on tht the stereotypes of the houses are bogus. There are prom queens in the brains house, athletes in the girly house, scholarship girls in the rich b*tch house, etc. Don’t worry about anything other than being the best sister you can be when it comes to your sorority experience. Be a good ambassador for your group and hold your head high. people can only make you feel bad with your own consent.</p>

<p>MizzBee, that is excellent advice. </p>

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<p>A sorority should be about sisterhood first and foremost.</p>

<p>For those who are shopping for colleges, I think this thread (and the zillions of others about Greek life) show that you need to look at the situation at the specific schools you are considering. If you don’t like the idea that girls are “rated” by what sorority they belong to, or that the Greeks dominate the social scene, or that rush is brutal–then it seems to me that you might want to look at schools where that isn’t the case, rather than planning to rise above it or ignore it.</p>