<p>there hasn't been any more information released. since its not someone associated with the university, there isnt any reason to discuss it further.</p>
<p>Well, it kinda happened on campus so I'd say it's pretty big news.</p>
<p>^ yeah, it seems that affiliation is meaningless when someone dies on campus like that... but oh well</p>
<p>i agree, but it must be ucpd and ucla spokespeople being tightlipped, otherwise daily bruin would have added more</p>
<p>More info today... <a href="http://www.dailybruin.com/news/2007/oct/18/campus-suicide-victim-troubled/%5B/url%5D">http://www.dailybruin.com/news/2007/oct/18/campus-suicide-victim-troubled/</a></p>
<p>Wow, what a story. Poor kid, this is what happens when you homeschool kids. Children are naturally supposed to be around other children at school, it's the way of life. If you put education before a social environment at such a young age you get kids that are at least introverted if not ****ed up like this guy. I have a friend here at UCLA that was homeschooled, too, and even though he's going to be graduating out at seventeen he's still really introverted and a bit cuckoo..</p>
<p>^ Did you not read it carefully enough? He had schizophrenia. If he wasn't homeschooled, his condition would've aggravated him enough otherwise:
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Simon’s final years were marred by mental illness.</p>
<p>His father, Nick Latimer, said Simon had not been in good shape the last time he had seen him.</p>
<p>“He was pretty withdrawn and self-involved. He was struggling with some issues,” Nick said.
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It's typical for mental illnesses to start appearing in the early years of young adult-hood (late teens/early twenties). Some people are more predisposed to a mental illness if it runs through one's family. Whether or not it's inherited, and then later, becomes expressed is a different issue.</p>
<p>As for homeschooling - there is no causal link! Only... stereotypes and misconceptions. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Huh? Did you not read it carefully enough? </p>
<p>"Simon Latimer was born on Oct. 16, 1988. His mother, Dianne Taylor, remembers Simon as an endlessly generous child."</p>
<p>"Eventually, Taylor decided to home-school her son."</p>
<p>"about a year ago, he started hearing voices and became schizophrenic."</p>
<p>He developed schizophrenia AFTER he was home schooled for his childhood. Now you may say there's no "causal link" but I believe there is and I think there's definitely some relationship there. I'm sure there are many home schooled kids who aren't wacked out, but I'm not basing my comments on stereotypes but rather personal experience when I say there are many who are.</p>
<p>In case you didn't catch on let me summarize this for you:</p>
<p>Happy, generous child -> Parents decide to home school -> Kid becomes schizophrenic and introverted(a social illness) -> Kid commits suicide.</p>
<p>Put two and two together.</p>
<p>[EDIT]And for the record, I don't mean to say home schooling directly causes social problems, because I thoroughly believe the parents had to be doing something wrong for their kid to end up that way, too. I don't think a kid gets born into this world and is on a one way track to developing a mental illness. I definitely fault the parents and anyone else responsible for the kid's upbringing, as well. A kid's childhood environment is a crucial factor in something like this..</p>
<p>"I don't think a kid gets born into this world and is on a one way track to developing a mental illness."</p>
<p>That sounds fishy to me. If it's mostly the case of nurture, why are there hereditary links when it comes to disorders like schizophrenia?</p>
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Huh? Did you not read it carefully enough?
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Yes, I'm perfectly capable of reading. In the spirit of using test scores to determine intelligence on CC, I passed out of the English Composition 3 class through AP Exams. :rolleyes: </p>
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I don't think a kid gets born into this world and is on a one way track to developing a mental illness.
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You don't think so? How about actually knowing? :)</p>
<p>Blah, I should have written that a bit more clearly, I meant disorders that aren't genetically predisposed. </p>
<p>But anyway, there is no definite ruling on the case with schizophrenia and that kid since we don't have medical histories for him or his parents. So, although I strongly feel his home schooling and lack of an outgoing social life may have caused his disorders I can't prove it.</p>
<p>poor kid :(</p>
<p>and wow he commit suicide on his birthday. anyone else catch that?</p>
<p>Actually 4 days before...</p>
<p>She's talking about his astrological birthday..</p>
<p>megathunder,</p>
<p>I hope you realize that the school system we have in place today is really a VERY new phenomenon. Humans haven't been putting their kids in large schools with other kids for most of human history.</p>
<p>So how can it be "natural?"</p>
<p>Furthermore, the onset of schizophrenia can be very sudden, and there is absolutely NO good reason to believe that it had to do with homeschooling.</p>
<p>Really, you can't so cynically place the blame on something so definitive as home-schooling. I am not saying that homeschooling has nothing to do with it but the causes of such a misled life can result from the way he interpreted the world, "the onset of schizophrenia" (UCLAri), or a combination of all those put together including homeschooling. Sometimes tragedy comes out of sheer randomness. And this poor kid died, (though he died for what he really believed in no matter how ill he was) when all he really needed was some others to keep him stable.</p>
<p>the3ddy,</p>
<p>I'm just wondering why you put my onset statement in quotes. Onset seems to be the pretty standard way of referring to the start of psychosis.</p>
<p>oh, well iono. i couldnt state it another way and didnt tend for it to mean anything.</p>
<p>Oh, gotcha.</p>