<p>Read that term on another thread.....so what are the southern Ivies? Emory? Duke? Vanderbilt?</p>
<p>Daughter #1 completed her college searches with state schools and true Ivies. Daughter #2 entering Jr. year and she's already looking into new schools not on her sister's list. She'd prefer to stay in the south......most likely at small LAC. Ideas?</p>
<p>My only idea is don't get too tied up with schools' "name factor" or college ratings. Good luck.</p>
<p>Daughter2 is anti names. We are taking a back roads approach to her schools. Was more curious what would be consider southern Ivy.</p>
<p>Duke would definitely be a 'southern Ivy'.. it is in many ways better than most of the northern Ivies.. here are the schools I think would make the top eight.</p>
<p>Duke, Rice, Georgetown, Emory, Washington & Lee, Vanderbilt, Davidson, William & Mary</p>
<p>Don't get too caught up with the Ivy label.. the eight Ivies are NOT the eight best (or even most prestigious) schools in the country. It doesn't do respect to Stanford, Duke, Caltech, MIT, Amherst, Pomona, Harvey Mudd, Williams, Swarthmore.. and many others!</p>
<p>William and Mary the only school mentioned with the word "Ivy" that is public?</p>
<p>I just picked the eight which would be considered the 'most selective' of the Southern schools. But of course there are gems such as UVA & UNC.. I will instead give a list of schools I'd consider to be 'worthy' of the 'Southern ivy' label..</p>
<p>Duke, Rice, Georgetown, Emory, Washington & Lee, Vanderbilt, Davidson, William & Mary, Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, UVA, University of Richmond, UNC-Chapel Hill, New College of Florida..</p>
<p>These schools make up the top for Southern schools..</p>
<p>Besides small southern LAC, what is she looking for? Ivy doesn't really mean anything, or rather, to some it means prestige, to others, something else. To help your daughter find a good fit, looking at who she is rather than how a school is labeled will probably be more useful. For instance, my son wanted high-powered academics, minimal sports, no frats and geeky-good-fun at a small non-southern LAC. That helped narrow down the list. The schools listed so far in this thread are very different from each other in size and feel.</p>
<p>momray.. if your daughter isn't into the Greek scene.. do NOT apply to Washington & Lee.. 80% of people on campus are in fraternities or sororties.. </p>
<p>New College of Florida.. small size.. extremely intellectual environment.. and it doesn't have a Greek scene at all.</p>
<p>Will have to look up New College of Florida.</p>
<p>Washington and Lee is most likely what she DOESN'T want in a school. I like to read their website and on here. </p>
<p>She's very creative. Loves to write, and to draw. Also loves animals. Spends much of her time volunteering at the humane society. Sometimes, she thinks she wants to be a vet, other times, more liberal degree, working in other avenues and have animals on the side. I think she'd do well in advertising.</p>
<p>Remember that the term "Ivy League" really refers to a sports conference but obviously it's associated with the best schools in the US. There have been a couple of attempts to create the southern equivalent but it falls apart due to current conference aliances and frankly money. Duke will never do well in the ACC in football but can't leave the conference becuase of all the money football generates.</p>
<p>Here's another attempt at creating a southern Ivy league which is called the Magnolia League:</p>
<p>If the New College of Florida is on the list you should also consider Furman University</p>
<p>thanks, george. I don't know NCF but am aware of Furman</p>
<p>interesting article on Magnolia league. Once again, William and Mary listed with the majority of private schools.</p>
<p>Wow....tuition cost, NCF is a bargain. Similar to my costs if she stayed in state.</p>
<p>Most state schools have a requirement to enroll a certain % from in-state. I think NCF might be 80%. With it being a very small school, it makes the competition for the OOS very competitive. If you're in VA W&M is very attractive. You just have to get through your D's normal tendency to go out of state (My 2 D's original list of colleges seemed to be as far away as possible. Eventually we got them thinking about schools within a 4 hour drive of home and it turned out great)</p>
<p>Daughter1 is going to William and Mary...not sure if it will draw or deter D2. I like the idea of a four hour drive or less.</p>
<p>There are a few other Southern LACs that get mentioned here all the time, and that probably deserve a look if you want a Southern LAC (although most are more than a four hour drive from NoVa): Rhodes (in Memphis), Hendrix (in Arkansas -- not sure if that's "the South" to you), Elon (NC), Sewanee (somewhere in TN). Also, St. John's and Goucher in Maryland may be worth looking into. These are all private, of course. New College of Florida is pretty unique for being a true LAC that got absorbed into a public system.</p>
<p>If what "Ivies" means to you is a certain measure of prestige and a rounded, liberal arts education, these schools will qualify (as long as your target prestige range is pretty wide). If "Ivies" means relatively small but complete research universities with national/international focus and reputation, no LAC will qualify, and only Duke in the South unquestionably fits the bill. UVa and UNC offer similar quality in a somewhat larger package, and Vanderbilt, Tulane, Emory, etc. are not out of the running. And, if Maryland is "South" enough, Johns Hopkins and UMD (and Georgetown, I guess).</p>
<p>Per USNWR, the best LAC's in the "South" are:
10. Davidson College(NC)<br>
17. Washington and Lee University(VA)<br>
34. University of Richmond(VA)<br>
34. Sewanee—University of the South(TN)<br>
41. Furman University(SC)<br>
45. Rhodes College(TN)<br>
57. Wofford College(SC)<br>
61. Agnes Scott College(GA)<br>
74. Spelman College(GA)<br>
74. Birmingham - Southern College(AL)<br>
74. Sweet Briar College(VA)<br>
86. Randolph - Macon Woman's College(VA)<br>
86. Virginia Military Institute *
86. New College of Florida *
104. Hampden - Sydney College(VA)<br>
104. Randolph - Macon College(VA)<br>
104. Hollins University(VA)</p>
<p>thank you, george....you've been a wealth of knowledge! Randolph Macon Women's College (now Randolph college) is at the top of her short list. But she's not researched many schools yet. I thought Uof R might be too costly but they've greatly enhanced financial aid since my high school sweetie attended.</p>
<p>What about Centre College? Not Ivy-ish, but perhaps a good fit from what I've gleaned from the thread.</p>