Sports Recruiting

<p>Do you guys know how to sign up to be recruited so that smaller schools with smaller recruiting programs can see you?</p>

<p>What sport? I know some about gymnastics, where you write coaches and send tapes to schools you are interested in. I assume that even schools with small budgets watch big meets, know who top regiional players are, etc..</p>

<p>basketball, d3 prob at a school like MIT or something of the sort</p>

<p>If there's recruiting forms on the team's website, fill them out and they'll be in contact with you. From my experience, I jokingly filled out a recruiting form for Johns Hopkins, knowing I couldn't get in academically, and the coach wouldn't stop harping me for months, telling me that I was in no sweat and blahblahblah. I ended up not even filling out the application and applying (those essay questions were so damn hard), but I'd say if you're good enough at your sport, it's a huge boost in admissions.</p>

<p>I have a thread on this topic. Click on my name, see threads started, and you will find it. Lots of info there...</p>

<p>For a shorter answer: There are two ways to get noticed. </p>

<p>One, sign up for a private consultant's services. They email your stats to all the coaches at the D3 schools. Can be expensive (~$1200 in my area)</p>

<p>Two, ID the schools yourself, and email the coaches directly at the schools you like. (Just as effective IMHO.)</p>

<p>Pick schools you'd like with/without the sport, and hopefully schools where your SATs are close to the median range, say 40% or better. In your email, express interest, include you SAT scores & GPA, and also include applicable athletic stats (i.e. conference or tourney awards, 1st team all league, & other such stats.) Include your coach's name, email, & phone number too, for verification.</p>

<p>Top D3 schools do recruit and it can help. They do however, have limited budgets and often don't get much exposure to athletes outside their specific region. </p>

<p>Coaches that are genuinely interested & proactive recruiters will want to see your transcript to verify your "recruitability" with their admission office liaison. They will be specific and will probably expect you to commit with an ED application.</p>

<p>For MIT-like school that is D3 consider Harvey Mudd. Its D3 teams merge with CMC & Scripps, I believe. Excellent tech school. In New England, top academic D3s are NESCAC schools (Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin, etc) plus Vassar, Hamilton, Haverford.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

<p>This past year our d was applying to schools where she could play her sport and get the best education possible. My H works in marketing and created a profile for her. It included her stats, such as grades, tests scores, and achievements related to academics and the sport she played. He got a list from the NCAA of all Div. 1,2,&3 schools. He then choice the ones with the geographical location she preferred. He sent out about 100 letters to potential coaches. She got a huge response. She then had to get serious about which schools she would and would not consider. Unfortunately, the D-2 and D-3 schools showing the greatest interest were not the schools she had a big interest in. When she had made her potential choices she then visited the schools and met with the coaches. As you all probably know, the schools with the best academic rankings can offer very little in the way of $$$$ as they have a list of candidates a mile long. If you are willing to send out lots of letters, return dozens of emails, and talk to coaches on the phone you can eventually find what you want. You must be sure however that in the end you choose a school that you will love even if an injury or any other misfortune takes you out of the game the week after you arrive on campus. Good Luck to all.....</p>

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One, sign up for a private consultant's services. They email your stats to all the coaches at the D3 schools. Can be expensive (~$1200 in my area)

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<p>I would advise against going this route. I play sports in college and have helped coaches with recruiting in the past. For the most part these services offer nothing you couldn't put together with a camcorder and internet. Additionally, they often mis-pair athletes with schools because they use a very basic sorting system.</p>

<p>Many of the best ways to go about recruitment have already been discussed, but the best advice I can offer is just to get organized and get in touch with coaches. Especially D3 schools just do not have the budget to go out and find kids, you have to find them. The only other thing I would highly recommend is putting together a stat sheet, and or notable opponents plus you performance against them and a highlight film (for example, I had tapes of a series of at-bats vs. a first round draft pick). Film is the only way that many of these coaches will be able to evaluate you, even if it's just a video of you doing drills, i.e. demonstrating your shot, working out against a buddy, etc..) it will help.</p>

<p>Finally, if you're looking academic D3 basketball, check out Pomona. SCIAC champs 2-years running.</p>

<p>Is there a place online where we can see division 3 games or workouts of the division 3 teams? It would help prospects if they can see the level of play.</p>

<p>Hmmn, good question dstark. I don't know about any site offering that sort of service, the only thing I could think of is that some school might have video clips on their individual sports pages. even then, I doubt it. If you're really interested you could contact the coaches at a given program and ask if they could send you a game tape or two. </p>

<p>What sport are you interested in by the way? I might be able to help describe the general talent level.</p>

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Is there a place online where we can see division 3 games or workouts of the division 3 teams? It would help prospects if they can see the level of play.

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great idea ... an alternative to get a similar result ... ask your HS/club/AAU coach about players a year or two older and the schools at which they ended up. I'm amazed at the number of local kids playing DIII sports near me ... it appears most solid multi-year HS starters in a good HS program can find a DIII program at which they could play.</p>

<p>A consultant or 2 are worth talking to. In a fifteen minute, free conversation, I was able to realize that my son didn't have a hope of being recruited by a good college. He was not on a year round travelling team, had not been to the camps and didn't have the exposure so many do. I was told that coaches had been watching their top picks over time, since freshman year in many cases. If my son wanted a less academic school there was a possibility, but not at the better colleges.</p>

<p>When you fill out the forms on college websites, how soon do the coaches contact you? My d and I filled out several four weeks ago, but haven't heard from any of the schools. Should we follow up with mail/e-mail, or wait a little longer?</p>

<p>tomadog02, I'm interested in soccer. I know about ODP and club teams, etc. I would just like to see a division 3 team play. While I write this, I'm thinking... guess I should just go to a division 3 game. :)</p>

<p>In response to "how long to wait", I would say these couple of months before the next season a large number of the coaches are enjoying some downtime. I would give them a couple of months and then follow up with a phone call or email. It is more than likely they will ask you to submit a tape. My husband sent a five minutes dvd of our d. They don't want it to be too long as they have several to watch. Make sure all correspondence contains your phone numbers and the best time to reach you. Also, remember NCAA rules state they cannot contact you until July 1 before your senior year, so it is still very early in the summer to be getting a lot of feedback.</p>

<p>Again, I must stress there is a lot to be done by the student in keeping the coaches informed of tournaments they can be seen at, and accomplishments that are related to their sport. Division 3 coaches, IMHO, are the easiest to have contact with, and the most eager to get tapes from you.</p>

<p>Good luck to all!!</p>

<p>Does anybody think a male can get on a division3 soccer team without playing club or ODP soccer?</p>

<p>My son played varsity football in High School and filled out sports questionnaires to several schools he was interested in academically. Most coaches, if interested, will reply to the questionnaire by asking for game tapes.</p>

<p>It should be noted that, particularly with Division III schools, GPA and grades are evaluated carefully to determine academic eligibility. Some Division III school coaches are give a number of admissions "slots" for athletes.</p>

<p>This process helped my son tremendously as he was accepted early action to a top notch university.</p>

<p>dstark,</p>

<p>ODP is not an absolute for any division. However, club is another story as every coach my d spoke with asked what club she played for and what bracket and league they were in. If you have a very strong high school program and can send them a tape along with a strong coach recommendation you may have a chance at some D-3 schools.</p>

<p>to clarify my earlier post: I completely agree that one can do this very easily without a consultant; not rocket science.</p>

<p>dstark, I had exactly your idea. </p>

<p>Luckily my D's sport is tennis. We attended a D-3 regional tournament and saw a bunch of schools play one another. Of course, you see the two or three best players from each school, and some teams are deeper than others... However, it was very educational as to the level of play in the universe of D-3 tennis. It was surprising how great an ability range there is-- from top D-3 schools to the lowermost teams who are given courtesy spots in the tourney and are quickly defeated.</p>

<p>Some of the D-3 college players we saw would not play JV at my D's high school, though we live in a very strong tennis region. Other D-3 players were almost indistinguishable from D-1/Ivy level kids we know... a huge range. </p>

<p>Another good way of getting a basic idea of ability levels-- if you have a local D-3 school, go check out one of their team's games. Their coach can give you a good sense of how other teams elsewhere might stack up. For example, there is a school in our area that plays exhibition matches against lots of D-3 colleges, even far outside their league. This coach hit with my D and was able to give us a ballpark notion of what D-3 schools she could be a starter for in our state/region. By looking at where these teams ranked nationally, I could extrapolate. </p>

<p>Finally there were two alumni ex-tennis players from good D-3 schools who now live in our town, and an ex- D-1 coach who knows my D well from club play. All had great insights as to her appropriate tier.</p>

<p>These are all good avenues to explore. Once you have gotten a decent guess as to the tier, go see a game or two to confirm you are correct-- and then use notional rankings to extrapolate other schools.</p>

<p>Finally, there were players from classes a year or two ahead of my D who have gone on to play D1, 2, & 3. We had a basic idea how she stacked up against these former teammates, too.</p>

<p>Oldhat, thanks. It makes it difficult for kids that want to play 2 sports to play soccer at a club level.</p>

<p>Do walk-ons ever happen anymore?</p>

<p>Yes, walk-ons still happen. Believe it or not, a kid I know recently walked on to a team at Stanford-- and wound up playing.</p>

<p>My D also did not max out her sport (did not play tournaments during her off season, due to another non-sport EC) so she lost her ranking. The D-3 coaches she talked to didn't care about that. They just need some way to verify the level of play; 1st team all-league in a strong league is good enough for verification. </p>

<p>We also sent tapes to the coaches who were the most interested. </p>

<p>HEADS UP!! start taping now to get ready for September. If they ask for a tape you don't want to have to scramble to concoct one. I agree-- you need about 5-10 minutes of game highlights, scrimmages, & drilling.</p>