<p>Hey I did some searching but there weren't man threads on pharmacy so I decided to make a new one. Does anyone know how hard it is to get into st. John's pharmacy program or albanys.</p>
<p>Anyone from the class of 09 applying to them?</p>
<p>bump anyone?</p>
<p>Racer - My D is planning to apply to both and knows people currently enrolled at both. All of the 0-6 PharmD programs are competitive in that they only enroll a certain number a year and they're all tough programs. I've met a number of ACP students/grads through my work and they all speak very highly of the school and the program. Her gpa-uw is around a 3.9 and she has been interning in a hospital pharmacy. The people she knows there had similar gpa's. Your math and science grades are particularly important and obviously they'd like to see that you can handle challenging courses and a busy schedule. I believe level of knowledge/interest in the work/profession also comes into play so if you've had any medical or pharmacy experience, even as a shadow or volunteer, that would be a good thing.</p>
<p>You may be aware that ACP's program is currently on probation due to low retention rates I believe. ACP will be going to a 2+4 format beginning in Fall 2009, with guaranteed spots in the professional program to students who maintain a minimum gpa. It sounds as if they may also implement some other requirements such as testing. It's highly unlikely they will lose accredidation over it but if you email them with questions, as I did, they will respond in detail.</p>
<p>So...without knowing more about you and your background that's all I can really tell you. You might also check out Mass College of Pharm in Boston, Univ of Sciences in Philly and Duquesne in Pittsburgh. Good luck!</p>
<p>Thank you for your response. I don't think my gpa will be the best because it is significantly low. It should be around a 3.5-3.6. My sats were ok. Math and cr was 1350. I did research at yale for the past two summers. I got some top awards and honors around the community, volunteered at a nursing home, alot of clubs with some leadership positions and I also played some sports. Do you think it is even worth applying?</p>
<p>Racer - I absolutely think you should apply! If you don't, you'll never know! Is the reason your gpa is a little lower because you took honors/AP's? Are your math/science grades mostly A's? Pharmacy seems to be a very transcript oriented admissions process. I've asked some others to give me their impression of average stat's for St John's pharm and will let you know what I hear.</p>
<p>Yes I did take alot of Aps/ Honors. Not all my math and sciences are A's though. I hope research will compensate for that loss. Thanks though I will apply and see what happens. If it is written for me to get into that program let it be if not I will find an alternative</p>
<p>Thought you might be interested in this, excerpted from an email I rec'd from St John's admissions:
"This year we've had over 3,400 students apply for the pharmacy program
and we will enroll approximately 300 students. This year, the average
SAT score of an accepted Pharmacy student (math + critical reading) was
approximately 1330 and the average GPA was approximately 94. Those
aren't minimums - they are the mean scores. Acceptance is based on
strength of the applicant pool. "</p>
<p>I'm thinking their GPA reference is unweighted, but can't be sure.</p>
<p>Info rec'd from ACP on last year's average admits: 92 GPA (they have their own way of figuring this, does not include any non-core courses and is not weighted); ave. SAT 1750 (1180 Math/CR); ACT 26. Looks like they had about 1360 applications, accepted about 55%, and enrolled 325 (280 PharmD freshmen). Admittance to the professional years requires a 3.0 gpa, pcat, and interview. Hope this helps.</p>
<p>Thanks. I am more interested in St. John's because I live in the city so I would save money for the room. Thanks though. It seems a little bit easier i guess?</p>