<p>How can a Junior University on a Farm be join anything but the Ag League? (Minnesota, Wisconsin, Nebraska, UC Davis and perhaps throw in the public Cornell-CALS) :D</p>
<p>btw: Nobel prize in Medicine shared by a Yalie, a 'furdie and a Golden Bear.</p>
<p>BB, you are now officially on the hate list of Carpetbaggers U aka TAMU.</p>
<p>By the way, Stanford should consider joining the SEC, as it will finally get a share of those silly high preseason rankings and the pleasure to have a creampuff schedule. And what a boost for the SEC academic stats. 10 percent increase in SAT scores across the conference.</p>
<p>As long time CC members may have noticed, I can get pretty pedantic sometimes. But I generally cut some slack for well-meaning people like the reporter or lots of CC kids who lump this or that high-end school in the “Ivy League.” That’s because, like many terms in the English language, “Ivy League” has grown to have two meanings - a narrow or technical one and a broader and more descriptive or functional one.</p>
<p>The narrow definition of Ivy league is of course the athletic conference and the eight schools that comprise it. That’s it. If you are not in that conference you can’t be Ivy. But used in the more general sense the term can include highly-regarded schools located elsewhere. Depending on the context of the piece, this usage often isn’t wrong; it’s just broad instead of narrow.</p>
<p>Arguing in favor of permitting this broad usage is the simple fact that the term “Ivy League” is older than the athletic league itself by about two decades, and its usage back then was rather ill-defined and not limited to those eight schools. </p>
<p>Plus, if you really want to insist on pedantry, then some of the true Ivy League schools shouldn’t be called that either. Because their campuses have little or no ivy growing there. So in that strictest of senses they don’t qualify for the “Ivy League” either.</p>
<p>If something called the “Big 10” can have twelve schools in it, I don’t see why you’d have to have actual Ivy to be in the Ivy League.</p>
<p>Don’t forget the HYPS moniker- many don’t care about half of the Ivy (sports) league schools. Or that many flagship public U’s outrank many of the private schools northeasterners consider prestigious.</p>
<p>Well, we need a new term to replace Ivy then. People get offended at the word “elite” (sounds snobby and pretentious), “highly-regarded” leads to the questions “By whom?” or “For what?” and assertions of different geographic preferences and departmental strengths, and “highly-ranked” leads to disputes over the merits of the ranking system employed. “Top” is bit undefined and suggests there is a bottom, which bothers people. Suggestions?</p>
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<p>Which colleges in the US have no ivy?
I saw ivy on many west coast colleges.
My neighbor ivy plants crawl over the fence and get in my backyard.</p>
<p>Well, Cornell for one, due to its prime location in suburban Hoth.</p>
<p>I assure you that Cornell has quite a lot of ivy growing on its campus, the most beautiful campus in the country.</p>
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I like to use “highly selective.” Or how about “Ivy-League league?”</p>
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<p>Its the opposite: The Big 12 has ten schools in it.</p>
<p>You’re right, the Big 12 does have ten; but the Big 10 has 12, and will soon go to 14.</p>
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<p>The German have a knack to come up with clear definitions – as well as words with 79 letters </p>
<p>When I was little I thought Stanford was an Ivy league school. I was shocked to find out later that it wasn’t. Similarly I didn’t know that Dartmouth, Cornell and UPenn were. Growing up like most, I only knew HYP. I knew Columbia because my Dad was accepted there for grad school waaaaaaay back in the day but couldn’t afford to go.</p>
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<p>Let’s not monkey around. The new HYPS is CHYMPS! </p>
<p>And sorry Chicago and Columbia fans, the C stands for Caltech!</p>
<p>Why don’t we call it “The Big League?” Then we can argue endlessly about what schools are in it.</p>
<p>Too close to the Big East, and not elite … enough. The Big something is the domain of elite public schools!</p>
<p>College Confidential’s single greatest achievement is the HYPS acronym. I can appreciate the sentiment and cleverosity of CHYMPS, but it’s slightly bush-league. HYPS, on the other hand, is just perfect.</p>
<p>I’m rooting for Emory to leapfrog to the top, so we can chat about overrated HYPE.</p>
<p>^Now, now, my older son’s GC definitely said “Ivies like MIT” (I tried not to wince) so clearly M belongs there!</p>