<p>....thats what my friend keeps telling me. she says shes positive that stanford is an ivy (the only ivy on the west coast) and i keep telling her its not..</p>
<p>from what i understand through internet research, there a 8 ivy league schools, all of which are nowhere near california. can somebody whos positive, tell me the answer...yes or no?</p>
<p>In terms of school quality, however, Stanford is at the very least indistinguishable from the Ivy League schools. Just because we don't have the "IVY" label slapped on us doesn't mean we're just as good as them. In fact, a significant number of students here think those schools can keep their label, and we'll go on having more fun than them and learning just as much anyway.</p>
<p>Stanford is better than most Ivies, even if it's not an Ivy.</p>
<p>I'd say the only Ivies that are potentially better than it are Harvard, Yale, and maybe Princeton. Although I'd say Stanford is better than Princeton.</p>
<p>Just kidding, though, really (coming from a Princeton 2010er whose second choice was Stanford). I mean, the difference between HYPMS is so tiny that the schools are virtually indistinguishable with regards to academic merit. Far more important are the overall environment of the school as well as the specific area of study you're interested in.</p>
<p>But I, too, agree that there exists a distinguishable difference between HYPMS and the remaining 5 Ivies. Don't get me wrong; they're great schools...but they're just not the same.</p>
<p>HYPMS is the top tier. It is above the Ivies (well the lower Ivies anyways, HYP is in the ivy league) So while Stanford is not in the ivy league it is equal to Harvard, Princeton and Yale and better than the other 5 ivies.</p>
<p>As an academic institution, Stanford is superb - second only to Harvard in many ways.</p>
<p>But it falls short of the high standards to which the Ivies adhere - which set them apart - in that it does not award financial aid only on the basis of need.</p>
<p>Among other things, Stanford pays out more in so-called "athletic scholarships" (an oxymoron, IMHO) than any other school in the United States of America.</p>
<p>Its overall yield rate requires an asterisk* in that more than 5% of the student body are salaried athletes - many of whom it lured away from other schools by offering them money to attend in exchange for their athletic "services."</p>
<p>ask your friend to check the IVY league and Pac-12 standings ... no Stanford in the IVY league ... but it is certainly one of the best schools in the country!</p>
<p>Byerly, Stanford competes in the Pac-10. If they didn't offer athletic scholarships, they would get creamed, and that would not look well on the university.</p>
<p>And it's not like being a top athlete is the golden ticket into Stanford. Stanford was Reggie Bush's dream school, and he got rejected. Bet Stanford wished they had him.</p>
<p>Do you have a link supporting that? From all I've seen USC simply out-recruited Stanford for him.</p>
<p>"When then-Washington coach Rick Neuheisel was trying to recruit Bush to the Huskies, Van Hook said he accused Helix coaches of doctoring the tape. "Reggie Bush was a phenomenal, I mean phenomenal talent on high school tape," Neuheisel said.</p>
<p>Such tapes drew a downpour of callers besides Neuheisel, including recruiters from Stanford and Notre Dame. Bush, who at the time wanted to study medicine, picked USC in part to run track. He posted a high school state-best time in the 100-meter dash in 2002 (10.42 seconds) but ultimately didn't pursue track because it interfered with spring football. "</p>
<p>HYPMS are THE elites, as far as i can tell. you're practically guaranteed a place in the outside world just as long as you back it up with luck and character.</p>