@Multiverse7 - Does it matter whether Penn95 went to Penn or Stanford or whatever? Making unfounded statements regarding whatever the college needs to be questioned, don’t you think? When questioned, Penn95 made a contradictory statement, and he got called on it. Stanford, or any college for that matter, doesn’t need these myth makers.
@TiggerDad I was merely referring to the post above mine in which you chastise @Penn95 for making that statement. I was pointing out that if they didn’t attend Stanford they are technically not violating what they said as you seemed to indicate.
Yes, people make all sorts of unsubstantiated claims on CC on just about anything and everything. I think you are getting all worked up about this for nothing. As many, many posters have said, all these elite schools are on par with each other and people can jump up and down about the school they attend(ed) (or admire) but it doesn’t change that fact. It’s all a matter of personal fit when it comes down to choosing between them.
@TiggerDad, Agree with your point. When I was saying top 5% -10%, I was talking about academic ability, not their character or other factors. Unabomber was a whacko but he was probably a smart guy academically. I don’t think colleges do all that good job of picking kids with good characters. Read that Ted Bundy was a good student in psychology and even attended Stanford course during summer on some scholarship. If you throw out the admitted batch of kids with an entirely new set of kids, imo only 5% to 10% of kids will be very hard to replace, maybe even lower like 2%. That’s my main point. It would be an interesting social experiment. But I agree that it’s not easy to determine kids’ abilities in the long run based on what they did in two or three years.
@Multiverse7 - You’re losing your credibility by defending the indefensible in a most laughable manner. Penn95 has not only made a bunch of unsubstantiated claims in his zealous attempt at systematic Stanford myth building but either lied or at least contradicted himself with the statement that you yourself quoted, and the only argument that you can come up is that “maybe” Penn95 is not Stanford affiliated and therefore not in “violation”!!!? I had some hope in you, namely, finding an honest and intelligent Stanford person with some regard to facts and truth, someone who considers these to be more important than defending falsehoods simply because Stanford needs to be defended at all cost, moral, intellectual and personal integrity.
Easy, Tigger =;
I generally agree with @Multiverse7, tbh. Sometimes people get overexcited in pressing their point of view, on here, at cocktail parties and anywhere else. We generally listen patiently and occasionally say something when it gets to be too much. They’re very different from the few people who are gratuitously offensive (e.g., the Special So-Fake Stanford student, who is in his/her own category).
I wasn’t defending @Penn95 and I never said I agreed with anything they’ve written. I just said that @penn95 said that you don’t see Stanford people posting braggadocio or whatever on HYP fora and you jumped all over him for doing just that - I merely questioned if he was actually a Stanford alum or not so possibly not in violation of his statement. But nevermind, you seem way more invested in this than I am.
You don’t need to start personal attacks on me as well. I haven’t been waiving a Stanford banner above all else in any of my posts. In fact, it’s been the opposite. I’ve said all along these are all amazing schools that have offer slightly different things so it boils down to personal preference.
I think you should probably wage your war with the posters that bother you so much offline. I don’t see how any of this is productive. They obviously feel strongly about their beliefs and so do you about yours. Nobody appears willing to budge. I prefer not to get dragged into this because there is a certain vitriol in your comments that is unsettling.
LOL on these uber-exited parents having kids attending the super elite schools (HYPMS). Good thing that my daughter was rejected by Princeton and waitlisted by Stanford and attending a second-tier Ivy. Otherwise I’ll be like @TiggerDad or his Stanford counterpart. j/k
I predict that this thread will be shut down soon anyway. CC is not supposed to be an argumentative community which is what this has devolved into.
I wonder what my nice picture of the multiverse will look like with jails bars on it 
Here is in fact my previous comment to the other person on your hit list.
If they and @penn95 are, in fact, not Stanford students or alumni, then your assertion about the need for STANFORD people to spread falsehoods about Stanford or other schools is in itself false. AND @upenn95’s comment that you don’t see Stanford people posting hype on HYP fora IS true. I point this out at the risk of once again inciting your ire but it couldn’t be helped.
You have two independent posters making whatever claims about Stanford on various fora. Don’t blame Stanford people including myself. I will exit this discussion now.
@2018dad - I have a strong aversion to ANY of HYPSM’s attempt at what I’d call a “systematic myth building.” It so happens that Stanford – the institution that I have a healthy dosage of admiration and respect for – zealotry in this regard is most evident and not in others. Replace “Stanford” with any of the HYPM, and I’d enjoy the same level of deconstruction of the myth building.
@Multiverse7 - Enjoy the rest of your time at Stanford, but I’d advise that you don’t become a lawyer. 
^^ Thanks for well wishes and the jab. I’m sure it felt good to write that. I’m 18, I still have plenty of time to hopefully mature in both thinking and actions (but law is not in my future, so don’t worry).
Plus, you are using of N of 2 to make a blanket statement about pervasive Stanford “zealortry”. One of the posters, you keep baiting into admitting they are a HS student and the other poster likely never even attended Stanford. And you can’t seem to let this go. So I wish you luck in this war to fight the injustice of systematic myth building.
Let’s end
Stanford vs HYP
in any sense.
If we don’t, the nature/time will do it, soon.
I’m with you @ewho!
Lol. I had to go back and read the first post to recollect how this entire thread got started.
OP: Stanford’s the best!!!
Somebody: Oh no its not!
Somebody else: Of course it is!!
Yet somebody else: Totally not true!!
blah. blah
blah. blah
blah. blah
At the end of it all, I wonder how many changed their minds. What a total waste of 20 pages!!
^ sorry to waste your precious 10 min. I thought you knew the answer.
One of the reasons Stanford has gotten better over the years is because of better geographical diversity. If you go back 25 years, there were probably many kids from California at Ivy League schools like Princeton, but relatively few kids at Stanford from New Jersey or New York. I know many kids from the East Coast who had an interest in attending Stanford, but their parents did not want them going to school that far away. Nowadays, it’s no big deal for kids to go to college on the opposite coast, or in another country.
@nevrgiveup - “At the end of it all, I wonder how many changed their minds. What a total waste of 20 pages!!”
Yes, but the systematic attempt at myth building (Stanford best!) has come to a halt. <:-P
^ No worries. When the intrinsic values of two things are different, they will be priced accordingly. It is not up to what we think.
@TiggerDad So when anyone says anything positive about Stanford in a Stanford thread in a Stanford forum it is “myth building” but when you start a thread trying to get people to extoll upon the virtues of Princeton and why they chose it in the Princeton forum, that’s okay? Hmmm. Seems hypocritical to me.
@Multiverse7 - In your earlier defense, you said you’re 18. Well, I’ve seen kids at age 13 who know how to discern what is right from wrong. Being 18 doesn’t exempt you from the freedom of knowing such a difference. I have no idea how you got yourself into Stanford with your lack of rudimentary comprehension between myth making (Stanford is best!) and factual statements about Stanford. Apparently, you can’t tell either from my post in Princeton forum the difference between myth making and factual statements about Princeton.
Each year, there are many high school seniors trying their best to make a decision as to which school would be the best fit for them. Throwing a bunch of myths about Stanford (and I know you’re not one of those who’ve been contributing to this; I’m taking about certain others), as opposed to fact based inputs, does them more harm than good. I just read somewhere here on CC that a large percentage of students majoring in humanities, as well as social sciences, at Stanford, felt out of place in an environment that is more STEM and CS strong. I wonder how many of them chose Stanford because of “Stanford’s best!” myth that they’ve been fed on.