<p>I for one, would love if it if Stanford became an Ivy League school... if they'd send the Pennband to away football & basketball games there.</p>
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<p>I don't deny that Stanford is good at producing future MBA's. </p>
<p>However, you were the one that said that Stanford was the absolute best place to go for business, hence that statement can only be backed up if Stanford is the absolute best at producing future MBA's. Nost just good, but the best. I think that assertion is unfounded, because there is no evidence that Stanford is the best at producing MBA's. It's very good, but there is no evidence that it's better than everybody else.</p>
<p>JohnnyK, the Revealed Preference Rankings control for regional preferences and an entire section is dedicated to that question. The overall rankings take regional biases into account.</p>
<p>I just want to point out...rankings based on professional school enrollment will be inherently biased against universities with strong engineering departments. While liberal art bachelors will be inclined to go to professional schools after college (or else they would be pretty screwed), undergrad engineers have the option of pursuing masters or Ph. D.'s in engineering. And most engineers will choose that option. </p>
<p>Thus, schools like MIT, Caltech, UC Berkeley, and Stanford won't rank as well as it's peers in this ranking (and they don't). Plus, high GPA's are a prerequisite for medical and law school admissions, and engineering courses tend to be harder...</p>
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just want to point out...rankings based on professional school enrollment will be inherently biased against universities with strong engineering departments. While liberal art bachelors will be inclined to go to professional schools after college (or else they would be pretty screwed), undergrad engineers have the option of pursuing masters or Ph. D.'s in engineering. And most engineers will choose that option.
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<p>Actually, what is more accurate is that most engineers will elect to go right to work after graduation. Let's keep in mind that the majority of engineers do not want to get into, or do not have the grades necessary to get into engineering grad-school. </p>
<p>I would also point out that engineering students probably have an above-average chance at eventually getting into an MBA program. Engineering tends to be overrepresented within the student bodies of the top MBA programs. The reason is simple - engineering jobs are highly suited for providing the work experience that is so important to getting into an MBA program. It's a lot easier to get the kind of job that will help you get into an MBA program as an engineering student than as, say, a art history student. </p>
<p>Nevertheless, I suspect that, overall, engineers are handicapped when it comes to getting into professional schools overall.</p>
<p>stanford is much more well-rounded. it has a strong engineering/cs/science program like MIT, berkeley, caltech but has strong humanities/liberal arts like the Ivies</p>
<p>Faculty strength:</p>
<p>1) National medal of science winners
Stanford (34)
Harvard (33)
Princeton (15)
Yale (8)</p>
<p>2) membership in national academy of science
Harvard (164)
Stanford (125)
Princeton (72)
Yale (59)</p>
<p>3) membership in national academy of engineering
Stanford (90)
Princeton (20)
Harvard (17)
Yale (7)</p>
<p>4) membership in institute of medicine
Harvard (>100)
Stanford (54)
Yale (40)
Princeton (<10)</p>
<p>US NEWS graduate school department rankings </p>
<p>5) business school
Harvard #1
Stanford #2
Yale #10
Princeton NA</p>
<p>6)education school
Stanford #2
Harvard #6
Yale (NA)
Princeton (NA)</p>
<p>6) engineering school
Stanford #2
Princeton #18
Harvard #18
Yale #40</p>
<p>7) medical school
Harvard #1
Stanford #6
Yale #6
Princeton (NA)</p>
<p>8) Law school
YAle #1
Harvard #2
Stanford #3
Princeton NA</p>
<p>9) math
Princeton #1
Harvard #2
Stanford #2
Yale #6</p>
<p>10) physics
Stanford #1
Harvard #3
Princeton #3
Yale #11</p>
<p>11) chemistry
S #1
H #5
Yale #15
P #16</p>
<p>12) biology
S #1
H #4
Y #7
P #12</p>
<p>13) Computer science
S #1
P #6
H #16
Y #20</p>
<p>14) earth science
S #2
H #9
Y #11
P #11</p>
<p>15) economics
H #1
P #1
S #5
Y #6</p>
<p>16) politics
H #1
P #1
S #1
Y #5</p>
<p>17) psycology
S #1
H #3
Y #3
P #8</p>
<p>18) sociology
P #3
H #5
S #5
Y #20</p>
<p>19) English
S #2
Y #2
H #4
P #7</p>
<p>20) history
P #1
S #1
Y #1
H #5</p>
<p>Overall, S=H> P=Y. To split hairs, S is slitely ahead of H, P slitely ahead of Y.</p>
<p>It’s the fountain hopping. That’s not something you can do at a 25-degrees-below-zero Ivy. : )</p>