<p>The rankings posted above have already been posted in another thread that the OP made, and I debunked those rankings as the NRC ones. They aren’t. They’re rankings produced by phds.org, from data used in the NRC rankings. But not the same.</p>
<p>Thanks for those links! I’m soon to be getting my PhD in CS, and wasn’t aware of those. I think it’s interesting that they managed to persuade the NRC to change the methodology for CS. For the longest, I’ve understood that CS in particular places an emphasis on conference publications over journal publications, but I didn’t know it was such a stark difference from other fields that the NRC would actually change its methodology.</p>
<p>take the amounts raised from non-alumni sources and those that have gone towards the Stanford Medical School out of your $599 million Stanford figure</p>
<p>then divide the result by 18,000 students for Stanford and compare to the $207 million divided by 7,500 students for Princeton.</p>
<p>thanks for the comment, Neotycoon, but the purpose of posting the alumni giving rate, which is from the undergraduate students is to find out how happy the undergraduates in general were at their respective schools and the 60% to 34% giving rate is quite a difference don’t you think?</p>
<p>besides, you do KNOW that Page was not a Stanford undergraduate (Michigan undergraduate), don’t you?</p>
<p>On the other hand, you do know that Eric Schmidt, the recent CEO of Page’s company, Google, can be counted on as an undergraduate alumnus of Princeton, don’t you? — besides, how much more do you think Page will donate to Stanford, a graduate school alma mater, compared to Schmidt to Princeton, an undergraduate alma mater?</p>
<p>^ nobody believes you when you say you’ve spent time at Stanford. You said the weather is dry at Stanford… and all you do is ■■■■■ for Princeton on every forum.</p>
<p>^ so he claims. He started posting a few days ago and given how rude he is to everyone, people are pretty sure it’s a certain poster with a new account.</p>
<p>Phanta, of course the weather is dry at Stanford. Some months have averaged as low as 3/100’s of an inch of rain for decades…In fact, in the 5 months of May to September, the Stanford area has averaged only 3/4’s of an inch in total of precipitation for the 5 months added together. This would truly be considered dry.</p>
<p>Normal Precipitation
(PALO ALTO Weather station, 0.86 miles from Palo Alto)
Month Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
Inch 3.24 3.18 2.65 0.89 0.35 0.11 0.03 0.08 0.19 0.85 1.83 2.31 15.71 </p>
<p>YOU, on the hand, have claimed that the Stanford campus is much greener than the Princeton Campus, which averages about 3 inches of precipitation MORE **per month **than the Stanford campus area.</p>
<p>there is very little humidity in the Stanford campus area during the months of June, July and August. In fact, the average afternoon relative humity in the Stanford area drops below 30% during July and August, considered very very low compared to the national average which is in the 40%-65% range…</p>
<p>It is really sounding more and more like you have never even stepped foot on the Stanford Campus - and if you have, it appears that it occurred only during a week or so during the Nov. to March season.</p>
<p>^ I’m willing to bet that you’re from a very humid area, and so Stanford doesn’t seem humid. That would make sense, since you think Stanford is “dry.” I grew up partly on a desert (completely dry) and partly in northern Illinois (very humid) and can tell you that yes, Stanford always has humidity, and no, Stanford is not dry in the slightest.</p>
<p>I’ve also spent the past four years here, and each summer as well. It’s pretty humid during the summer. Know why? Because no matter what time of the year it is, Stanford is still next to a large body of water. ;)</p>
<p>Comparative alumni giving rate isn’t very telling of student happiness at Stanford vs Princeton. Why?</p>
<p>Stanford’s endowment and investment portfolio is so huge that it doesn’t solicit alumni giving as actively as other schools. Princeton probably sends out more frequent and annoying “donate to Princeton” alumni letters soliciting $5-$20 donations :).</p>
<p>Students also recognize Stanford’s financial security and make better use of their money investing in their own entrepreneurial projects/startups (and cost of living in Silicon Valley where many stay). The ones who make it big then give back in pretty huge sums. </p>
<p>Ugs have plenty of access to the non-alumni resources. Ain’t surprising Human Biology is one of the most popular ug majors in light of the med school figure.</p>
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<p>When you’re receiving more alumni dollars there is the feedback effect of boosting the culture of alumni donations straight out of school.
But when you’re receiving non-alumni dollars (that are effectively alumni dollars masked as stock options), you realize the value of enterprise, go out and start your own high-scaling startup business straight out of/during school, and make your alma mater hundreds of millions because it decides to be a shareholder in your company rather than an institution that prematurely picks away at your post-grad daily living expenses. You know all those Stanford alumni that worked for early-stage Google effectively “gave” Stanford several hundred million in stock options - they didn’t have to write a “donation” check to do it. Apply this same process to the volume of Stanford students that work at Facebook and the number of shares Stanford has in Facebook indirectly with funding vehicles like Accel/Greylock partners.</p>
<p>japanoko, some tidbits -
Page has given more to Stanford via Google than to his ug alma mater
Schmidt is no longer CEO of Google for its failure to adapt to social networking, among other reasons</p>
<p>Princeton is a respectable institution but again, all this nitpicking over statistical interpretation belies the underlying forces at work. At the end of the day, if you want to play big in innovation and technology of the future go Stanford. If you like old school Ivy tradition, then go Princeton.</p>
<p>Also, Stanford men and women are hotter. WIN</p>
<p>as for the amount of time one spends on this site - it’s pretty funny to see posts about HUMIDITY statistics. frankly, the students who actually make use of this site will never care or bother to read them.</p>
<p>what you do with your free time is your choice, but all choices have consequences, opportunity costs, and are subject to judgment by others, like it or not. i don’t care if you’re HYPS - how you make use of your life (that includes free time) after graduation for society is what really counts. forum ■■■■■■■■/time wasted on the net is a pretty significant problem in a society facing unprecedented debt, unemployment and education problems. hope this little comment, as blunt as it seems, brings some people back to reality. as such, i don’t see any point in participating in this thread any further. good luck, and carpe diem</p>
<p>I withdrew my Princeton application after receiving an early acceptance to Stanford.</p>
<p>Princeton’s a great school, and is an equal to Stanford in its undergraduate experience. [H and Y don’t really compare to these two]. Just ask yourself though, which school are you just more excited about? Whichever one comes to your mind first is the school for you. But honestly, you REALLY can’t go wrong either way.</p>