<p>Eiswein, gp to Princeton. Princeton’s emphasis is on undergraduate education. Stanford’s is on graduate. With a relatively equal endowment, a smaller undergraduate population, much smaller graduate population and a much lower local cost of living you get a lot more bang for the buck at Princeton.</p>
<p>I already have my first finance internship lined up this summer so why don’t you show up at their office. Good luck circumventing security! :)</p>
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<p>Yes, we’ll see what happens you lifeless lowlife scum. :D</p>
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<p>What makes you say that? Both have top grad programs. In fact, Princeton does as well as Stanford in the recent NRC rankings. Both have the same class sizes. Stanford was ranked #3 best classroom experience (vs. Princeton #10).</p>
<p>I think it’s all BS that Princeton could somehow provide a better undergrad experience than Stanford. In fact, this rumor has been debunked many times on this site–and not by Stanford people, but people who realize that Princeton isn’t doing anything better than Stanford is.</p>
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<p>AvidStudent, I see that you continue with the personal attacks, foul language and insults…</p>
<p>good luck there…</p>
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<p>ha!, now you are really funny. But that is not the way the world works…</p>
<p>the person that is going to hand you copies of your posted messages of personal attacks and foul language on CC will be the person that hired you. No one else…</p>
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<p>thanks phanta, that was from Princeton Review</p>
<p>and from USNWR:</p>
<p>USNWR Best Undergraduate Teaching</p>
<p>Save Rank School </p>
<p>#1 Dartmouth College
Hanover, NH</p>
<p>#2 Miami University–Oxford
Oxford, OH</p>
<p>**#2 Princeton University **
Princeton, NJ</p>
<p>#4 University of Notre Dame
Notre Dame, IN</p>
<p>#5 College of William and Mary
Williamsburg, VA</p>
<p>#6 Brown University
Providence, RI</p>
<p>#6 University of California–Berkeley
Berkeley, CA</p>
<p>#8 University of Michigan–Ann Arbor
Ann Arbor, MI</p>
<p>#8 University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA</p>
<p>**#10 Stanford University **
Stanford, CA</p>
<p>#10 Yale University
New Haven, CT</p>
<p>#12 Clemson University
Clemson, SC</p>
<p>#12 Purdue University–West Lafayette
West Lafayette, IN</p>
<p>#12 University of Maryland–Baltimore County
Baltimore, MD</p>
<p>#12 University of Vermont
Burlington, VT</p>
<p>#12 Wake Forest University
Winston-Salem, NC</p>
<p>japanoko, how can anyone ever take that seriously?! Miami U over Brown and Stanford!! LOL</p>
<p>^^^^PrincetonDreams, so is this the question: How can anyone take a USNWR rankings seriously?</p>
<p>is this the question or should we discuss how can anyone take the Princeton Review rankings seriously, which include schools such as Wittenberg Univ. in Ohio, St Johns College/MD and Bennington among the top 20 in “the best classroom experience” category?</p>
<p>japanoko, my point is that Princeton is not better than Stanford for undergrad experience, plain and simple.</p>
<p>phanta, this is the original post from the OP:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/12346832-post1.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/12346832-post1.html</a></p>
<p>I think that we would both agree that he would be very happy at both Princeton and Stanford, don’t you think?</p>
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<p>No person with any common sense would take the UNSWR rankings too seriously. The way CC’ers quote those rankings is, frankly, idiotic. Just because Caltech, for example, is ranked below Stanford doesn’t make Stanford the ‘better’ school. Both are amazing, but suit different personalities.</p>
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That’s a bit extreme, don’t you think? Suppose we say that, for many students, Princeton is not better than Stanford for undergraduate experience.</p>
<p>I daresay that’s more agreeable.</p>
<p>PrincetonDream, I think that the mere ranking of Stanford, MIT and Caltech below Columbia in the USNWR rankings this year would underscore you comment about USNWR, don’t you think?</p>
<p>^ Selectivity-wise, Columbia is ahead of MIT and Caltech, but behind Stanford (with which it might share the fourth rank in this year’s issue). Quality-wise, they’re really all equal. In the UK, where I live, Columbia is considered to be the best back-up for HYP, and everyone has immense respect for the school.</p>
<p>So to answer your question, no it doesn’t.</p>
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<p>I think that’s a useless addition, because you can say the same thing about the opposite. So saying “for many students” is implied.</p>
<p>And US News is pointless, as everyone knows. I mean, honestly, Columbia above Stanford? Right.</p>
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<p>PrincetonDreams, ahhh, but you do know that the USNWR rankings are more than just the acceptance rate selectivity, don’t you?</p>
<p>In fact, the acceptance rate only accounts for 1.5% of the total to determine the rankings…</p>
<p>so are you saying that Columbia and not Stanford, MIT and a few others are the backup for HYP in the UK FOR UNDERGRADUATE SCHOOL?</p>
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It certainly was not implied. You made a blunt statement that Stanford is better for undergraduate education. That’s a very hefty claim with no apparent intent at qualification and, from what I gathered from your tone and other posts, no implied intent either. </p>
<p>Actually my point was that you can say the same about the opposite. One is not necessarily better than the other for undergraduate education. They are different, and should be treated as such. </p>
<p>If a vast majority of students agreed that one was significantly better than the other, and physical metrics backed that up, then I might have let you get away with your blatant oversimplification. However I think we can all agree Stanford and Princeton are on the same general level for academics, therefore any absolutes should be avoided in my opinion.</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/12368752-post8.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/12368752-post8.html</a></p>
<p>"^Somewhat correct. Also do not underestimate the power of cold calling. This summer I will be interning at a PE firm that has $2.5 billion in assets under management. "</p>
<p>On second thought, I can’t advise you to choose Stanford over Princeton. Even though I’ll be attending the former this fall, I’d give up anything to go to Princeton. That’s just me though. Your idea of an ideal college may be entirely different from mine.</p>
<p>japanoko, yes. There’s an annoying fascination with the Ivy League here. And there are more Columbia grads here in top jobs than MIT and Caltech ones so that helps Columbia too.</p>
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<p>ok thanks…</p>
<p>and could that be because of the graduate schools at Columbia, such as the Business School and Law School, which are first class?</p>