Stanford? Yes Please.

<p>Hey guys…I just have a few questions. Opinions are welcome!</p>

<li><p>Stanford doesn’t present Writing score ranges on their Common Data Set. Do you think Stanford still considers it as important as the other 2 sections?</p></li>
<li><p>Some say that sending the Common App hurts you because it shows colleges that you are indifferent to the school itself. Since Stanford is moving towards the Common App, would you agree or disagree with the statement above?</p></li>
<li><p>How important are SAT’s compared to EC’s? Would a strong character with excellent academics and extracurriculars be admitted to Stanford on a lower SAT score? (2100-2200 range roughly I guess)</p></li>
<li><p>Out of over 3000 admitted students, how many do you think fall under the categories of urm, legacy, athlete, and VIP?</p></li>
<li><p>What are acceptable SATII ranges for Stanford?</p></li>
<li><p>Thanks for reading!</p></li>
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<li>Not AS important</li>
<li>Stanford isn't MOVING to the CA...they are already part of it.</li>
<li>Yes... it is definitely a possibility but i would stick closer to the 2200</li>
<li>Around 200-500</li>
<li>look at their site or on college board</li>
<li>Yea, NO PROBLEM</li>
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<p>haha I forgot to mention that I went to Stanford's site and they don't mention the SAT II ranges...</p>

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<li>750+ for everything is always a good measure. Shoot for 800 though.</li>
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<p>^ Maybe because there are TONS of SAT IIs out there and the pool is too small for a single SAT II and the average SAT II score would be statistically flawed!</p>

<p>No SAT II on the common data set because Stanford does not require SAT II, it's optional. I think this year is the first year they are joining Common Data Set. But yes I'm wondering the same thing about #2. I think if you don't have strong records/stats/etc, every bit helps, so not sending the Common Application may help.</p>

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<li><p>A good score will help you, a bad score will hurt you, but if it's not officially part of how they evaluate candidates, then it won't help or hurt you as much as high/low scores on the other sections. The mid 50% of Writing scores is the same as Critical Reading--that is, 660-760. </p></li>
<li><p>When I applied for fall 2007 entrance, they only accepted their own unique application. Now they've switched to the Common Application and will no longer issue their own application. So, if you don't apply with the Common App, then you don't apply at all. Of course it won't hurt your chances of being admitted. Besides, Stanford does not consider demonstrated interest as an admissions factor at all.</p></li>
<li><p>I was admitted with low 2200s, not much in the way of ECs (few, not too impressive, but not very "typical," ECs; scarcely any awards, EC-related or otherwise), with excellent academics (went above what my high school offered, skipped through math and language sequences, got to AP level in two foreign languages) and apparently a "strong character," though I don't feel I can judge myself in that regard. :p But my individual SAT scores (770 CR, 680 M, 760 W) were all within or above the mid 50% of scores. So, that 2100-2200 isn't all that low an SAT range, for Stanford. </p></li>
<li><p>I only know of one VIP admitted to Stanford's class of 2011 (the golfer--she might count as an athlete, though). But I really couldn't say how many were URMs, legacies, or athletes. I imagine there were a few.</p></li>
<li><p>I figure anything above 700 is fine. My top 3 SAT II scores were 710 (Math 2), 770 (French), and 800 (Literature); other than that, I had one score of 700 (Biology E); none were below 600, though one was 610 (Chemistry). </p></li>
<li><p>Um... you're welcome, though what you should be thanking us for is for responding to your questions. Not much to be grateful for if everybody just reads and doesn't respond. ;) :p</p></li>
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<p>Stanford admissions also vary widely based on residence. CA students have a much easier time getting in than east coast kids.</p>

<p>^^Not this coming year. I think the new Admission Director will make sure of that is not going to happen. I heard that in the news. Don't forget he is from Yale.</p>

<p>Ah Anniushka, what you said just totally made me feel a lot better...yeah I'm not one of those kids with an amazing SAT score. 2180 might just be able to get me in, I figure. I scored 770M 710CR 700W (I see it as no significant weakness on any part but no outstanding ability either). I guess what shines on my app will be academics/EC's hopefully. I do plan to take the ACT though.</p>

<p>I mean here's what I have: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=358513%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=358513&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>what do you think?</p>

<p>Plus, I heard from my guidance counselor that kids from the East Coast may either have an advantage or be on par with California residents because Stanford is seeking future alumni who will influence areas across the nation. What has been statistically shown is that colleges do not necessarily favor certain states. The acceptance rates bounce around the average in most states. Perhaps California residents are just more competent collectively?</p>

<p>And I heard somewhere that Stanford has 600 varsity athletes? That's a lot considering only 1500 or so undergrads enroll right?</p>

<p>No, Stanford actually started 2 years back system of taking more students from outside of the powerhouses. So there is more probability to get in with similar credential from a school outside CA.</p>

<p>Stanford is one of the few top schools which, in my opinion, puts the least emphasis on SAT scores. For whatever reason, there are significantly more people with "average" (that is CC-Average) scores on the test than other top schools. Its mid-50% is significantly lower that other top schools, yet it attracts top students. So no, lowerish scores won't hurt you.</p>

<p>That is quite true I think...apparently from the Common Data Set, the 50% is low compared to HYP. But, that's why I was wondering if anyone could take a stab at estimating how many legacies, athletes, and URM's get admitted (not saying that all are unqualified otherwise; I'm just trying to figure out how many borderline applicants get accepted)</p>

<p>I mean in the end, it really is a crapshoot I guess. I'm Asian though and I know it'll be harder on me getting in, even though I've tried to differentiate myself as best as I can haha. </p>

<p>Oh, and will SCEA help? I plan to apply early; I know EA doesn't help so much because the higher acceptance rate corresponds to a stronger applicant pool. But SCEA does show schools which applicants choose the school as a first choice right? Isn't it more favorable to select from a pool of strong, determined applicants?</p>

<p>Oh ho! Another question! </p>

<p>Does anyone know if Stanford allows supplemental information about EC's? Or if the Common Application allows enough space for a sentence or two about your activities?</p>

<p>The SATs look lower at Stanford because of athletes, Stanford takes more with lower crores than the ivies. </p>

<p>There is a ton of misinformation in this thread. At Stanford, URMs alone make up about 20% of every class. Stanford accepts fewer legacies than the ivies (about 25% compaared to 40%) but there are still many in every class. They don't publish the athlete numbers but you do the math, probably about 15%. Of course there there is overlap, but assume more than half of a class is full before they look at non hooked candidates.</p>

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<li>Stanford doesn't present Writing score ranges on their Common Data Set. Do you think Stanford still considers it as important as the other 2 sections?</li>
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<p>-No, it doesn't know how to use the writing section and it isn't considered in admissions, perhaps as an SAT II maybe
2. Some say that sending the Common App hurts you because it shows colleges that you are indifferent to the school itself. Since Stanford is moving towards the Common App, would you agree or disagree with the statement above?</p>

<p>-Stanford is ONLY going to accept common App plus its own supp app next year.</p>

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<li>How important are SAT's compared to EC's? Would a strong character with excellent academics and extracurriculars be admitted to Stanford on a lower SAT score? (2100-2200 range roughly I guess)</li>
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<p>-Stanford puts very little emphasis on SATs and much more on ECs. Note the many people who get accepted to Harvard and rejected by stanford, and personal experiences with people from my school getting rejected by Northwestern and in Stanford. Anything around a 2200 up is considered the same you could say.</p>

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<li>Out of over 3000 admitted students, how many do you think fall under the categories of urm, legacy, athlete, and VIP?</li>
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<p>-Probably around 500, stanford places a large emphasis on athletics and diversity.</p>

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<li><p>What are acceptable SATII ranges for Stanford?
Prolly any 700s, remember that SAT IIS are optional at Stanford.</p></li>
<li><p>Thanks for reading!
coo</p></li>
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