Starting over at a different city college would help me transfer to UCs?

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<p>Hi all,</p>

<p>I am positive that there exist a thread similar to my question in somewhere online; however, I couldn't find an exact match even after hours of researching. Please excuse me if this thread is a duplicate.</p>

<p>Summarized Question:
1. Starting over at a different city college, with retaking classes in which I earned grade C and B, would gain more chance of admission to UC Berkeley? Assume I maintain 4.0 GPA at my third college (with 60~80 UC Transferrable Credits). </p>

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<li>If it would not help me, should I take few more classes and apply for other universities with little bit improved GPA?</li>
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<p>Expanded Question:
Of course, as it may sound too lame, I did not study enough while I was attending past institutions. I have been having a wonderful life experiences besides school; I could not really pay attention to my work toward my transfer work.</p>

<p>In addition, I was almost forced to major in biology until last semester, mostly, because of my family pressure, etc. Now, I have finally realized that I am more of a computer science guy than a biology guy since I spent most of my life with the computer.</p>

<p>This year, I started working with my website project. While I was working by myself to expand my website projects--I have a mastery level of proficiency in web design--I realized I need a broader community with vastly knowledged and brilliant people. Furthermore, to achieve more of a professional status, I figured I had to advance to a great school.</p>

<p>As stated above, I created a true motivation and goal toward my career, and I am more than willing to invest another 2 or 3 years in Community College if it helps me in the long run. I would like to retake all of classes in which I earned B or C at my past institutions since I would like to build up my fundamental knowledge. I know it will not grant me a unit credit; however, I would like to show that I am capable of exceedingly excel on the courses in which I flunked for no reason.</p>

<p>I am planning to move to San Francisco Bay area soon, and I am thinking about going to attend one of the following colleges: De Anza College, Diablo Valley College, City College of San Francisco. Though my primary choice is UCB with computer science, I am also thinking about other UCs and private universities in other states.</p>

<p>My Grades are as follows:
X City College, 2.44 GPA with 16 UC transferrable units, 4 Withdraws;
Y City College, 2.86 GPA with 35 UC transferrable units, 8 Withdraws;</p>

<p>Here is my question.
1. Starting over at a different city college, with retaking classes in which I earned grade C and B, would gain more chance of admission to UC Berkeley? Assume I maintain 4.0 GPA at my third college. </p>

<ol>
<li>If it would not help me, should I take few more classes and apply for other universities with little bit improved GPA?</li>
</ol>

<p>I'd like to thank you very much for reading this thread. I would sincerely like to appreciate your helpful comments.</p>

<p>Cheers,</p>

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<p>afaik, you cannot retake a class where you had a passable grade…</p>

<p>Sure take as many classes you want as long you only have CCC units. keep in mind that UCs only take 70 units.</p>

<p>B and C are not flunking.</p>

<p>Man, you have to take a lot of units in order to balance your 2.7ish GPA.</p>

<p>Sorry to tell you mate</p>

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<ol>
<li>No, you’d be wasting your (and the taxpayers) time and money doing so and would not benefit you.</li>
<li>Yes</li>
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<p>FYI: DVC and De Anza are not city colleges, they are in boring bay area burbs. </p>

<p>If you haven’t taken your C++, I’d recommend Burns for Intro to Programming and Programming Design and Data Structures taught at DVC and can be taken online. Burns can be a bit gruff at times but is patient, professional, highly intelligent, and will break you in by teaching you programming as taught on the UC level. </p>

<p>If you are close to Pleasant Hell and haven’t taken your Intro to CS or Unix/Linux yet, I’d recommend Fogg, who is an ol school Berkeley hippie computer guru and nice guy.</p>

<p>I think the Mary at De Anza for VB.net is better than the menopausal nutcase teaching it at DVC unless she left or finally fired. There are also top notch CS teachers at Foothill, DA’s sister school with many available online classes.</p>

<p>Best of luck but I had to lol at this pompous ignorant statement though…“I have a mastery level of proficiency in web design–I realized I need a broader community with vastly knowledged and brilliant people. Furthermore, to achieve more of a professional status, I figured I had to advance to a great school.” BAHAHAHHAHAHAHA…lame</p>

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<p>Thanks for your comment.</p>

<p>For UC admission, I also heard the UC transferrable units may exceed more than 70 as long as those are only accumulated from CCC.</p>

<p>Is there a limit for UC transferrable units? According to UC Statfinder, admitted applicants had an average of 90 units for computer science major and 3.63 GPA. If there is no limit, it it does not hurt my application, I can technically achieve 3.6 GPA by taking additional 100 units.</p>

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<p>@kmazza
Haha I do notice that it was a lame statement. I found many grammatical errors too–I should’ve proofread my initial thread. </p>

<p>Anyway, thank you very much for your info. Did you attend DVC as a computer science major? If so, I would also appreciate if you share your experiences at DVC as I posted another thread here: </p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/transfer-students/1046000-best-cc-ucb-computer-science-transfer.html#post1066021207[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/transfer-students/1046000-best-cc-ucb-computer-science-transfer.html#post1066021207&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Thanks!</p>

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<p>No I was a GIS/GPS major at DVC but took a number of computer classes there. DVC has a solid CS program that is a good prep for Cal, granted the student is serious and pays attention. I liked a lot of the Berkeley professors at DVC so took many of them in a bunch of CS, history, and poli sci classes which I found fitting. </p>

<p>De Anza and DVC have the largest number of Asian students because many are desperate to get into Berkeley or just wanted to live in California or grew up here. I really like the diversity but did realize that about 1/3 of them cheat, about 1/3 work very hard while the remaining 1/3 were just as lazy as Americans haha.</p>

<p>I don’t know about CCSF but DA, Foothill, and DVC were pioneering and benefiting from technology due to their location pretty much before the rest of the US. They were hooked up and had better computer facilities than rivaled many universities but now even granny got her own portable pc device so don’t understand why people still care. I don’t really understand the hype with computers and gadgets and gimmicks, it comes across as primitive behavior to me like one just crawled out of a cave now or how a child grasps on to things.</p>

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<p>yeah sorry, I was not clear enough. they take as many units but they only count 70 units towards your degree.</p>

<p>there is no limit, but really??? you want to take additional 100 units. that’s crazy. also, dude you might as well be sisyphus. 2.7-ish with 51 units. how many 4.0 units do you need to pull that average up to to a 3.8?</p>

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<p>what classes do you want to take to fulfill the 100 units? I assume that you would have to take some classes for which you are not hard-wired for like art history or religion and get an A.</p>

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<p>I don’t understand these assumptions sometimes. I hear all the time how X person at the beginning of the term is going to get a A yet in almost every class, claiming how easy and how above it they are. I suppose its the pride before the fall since what only matters is the final outcome. I look at posted grades and many do NOT get A’s in their classes, especially the cocky ones who think they are going to crash a class without a book and be the A student. Many think they are still in HS and can still manipulate instructors into feeling bad for them and get a grade higher than they actually earned. </p>

<p>I don’t know how many times I’ve seen this over and over, especially from the geeks. They think just because they can do a logical problem that has a specific answer that any computer can do that they are a thinking person. These same smug geeks who took classes like philosophy, history, psychology, art, and the sciences were so sure they were smarter an better than everyone else in the class and going to get an A. Typically, it was these same people that actually underperformed and were way below average, many earning C’s, D’s, F’s, and W’s compared to the rest of the class. </p>

<p>One can say whatever they want with their confidence tricks and wishful thinking but until there is closure its pointless and ■■■■■■■■ in many ways and feels like the person just needs some sort of affirmation. Philip K Dick said it best that greater reality is merely what is left over and all the rest are essentially claims or a stake in your personal version of reality. </p>

<p>Just like sports and life, there are statistically going to be winners and losers. One can give all the reasoning based excuses all they want about how it was about how they played the game but the fact still remains that on final tally if your score is lower you basically are the loser. Its just that many people are sore losers so have to overcompensate to appear more than mortal.</p>

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<p>@kmazza</p>

<p>Though I am quite incensed about your comment about these assumptions and false pride among geeks, I have to agree with you for now since I have no physical proof to defend myself.</p>

<p>However, I will come back to this thread in one year with my updated info. I will keep updating my academic info to show other viewers that your comment contains over-generalization for next years (if cc still exists). Until then, you may think you are right.</p>

<p>Happy holidays and good luck to you for all.</p>

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<p>I suggest you aim for a mid-tier UC you can tag into, like UCD, UCI, UCSB or UCSD. Work really hard and get A’s in all classes the rest of this academic year. You might then qualify for a fall 2012 tag to these UCs!
My input on De Anza: It’s a great community college that exceeded all my expectations, when I first started college there. I’ve never taken classes anywhere other than De Anza, so I can’t compare the school to another, but I assure you that going there is really enjoyable. It’s safe, people care about academics, the instructors are great and you can get involved and participate in many campus activities, if you like. I recommend it to you!</p>