Stats of Rejected Students

<p>It seems that most colleges are happy to post their average standardized testing scores for accepted students, but I haven't seen any examples of the stats of the rejected applicant pool. Are there any such resources?</p>

<p>For example, such statistics would allow one to discover his or her chances of admittance if he has an ACT/SAT score of ______. I know it's only one factor, but it'd still be rather revealing.</p>

<p>San Jose State went even better by publishing the admission thresholds after completing the admissions cycle:</p>

<p>[url=&lt;a href=“http://info.sjsu.edu/static/admission/impaction.html]Info.sjsu.edu[/url”&gt;http://info.sjsu.edu/static/admission/impaction.html]Info.sjsu.edu[/url</a>]</p>

<p>(Note: for frosh, eligibility index = HS<em>GPA * 800 + SAT</em>CR + SAT<em>M or HS</em>GPA * 200 + ACT * 10, where HS_GPA is from 10th and later grade course work with limited weighting for college/AP/IB/honors courses. For transfers, the GPA is what the applicant has in his/her college courses to date.)</p>

<p>I think you said exactly why they don’t - because scores are only one factor. Without compromising the privacy of applicants, with their essays, LOR’s, EC’s, etc, such statistics are likely all over the place.</p>

<p>High schools with Naviance can show you scatterplots of admitted and rejected students by GPA and test scores, though that leaves out other factors in admissions, and does not help if you apply to schools that no one else in your high school ever applied to.</p>

<p>I looked on Naviance and was able to actually see what students from my school were accepted for rejected from certain colleges. In a few cases I could figure it out even though they don’t have data for a few years. I just knew that a certain kid in my school went to Harvard and he was the only one accepted that year so it was obvious.</p>

<p>The Naviance scattergrams for the top schools were quite baffling. For most schools, high GPA was a pretty good indicator of getting in, but for the top schools, it all seemed random. I guess essays and LORs make or break the application.</p>

<p>For the most selective schools, there is probably a small corner in the upper right of the Naviance scattergram where all of the admits (other than specials like athletes, developmental, etc.) are, but there will also be mostly rejects in that corner also.</p>

<p>For some other schools, the line between admit and reject can also be fuzzy, due to the school having different levels of selectivity for different majors or divisions (College of Arts and Sciences, College of Engineering, etc.).</p>

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<p>No. Stats of admitted students would indicate how one compares – how would looking at the vast pool of rejected students’ stats (which would include a mass at the far left side) tell you anything? Also, you’ve already stated this: SAT/ACT is only one factor for the eventual decision.</p>

<p>What would it reveal? Which schools have the biggest cache amongst the unwashed masses. Imagine what the bell-curve of the Harvard applicant pool looks like. Then compare it to other fantastic, but not so “celebrity” status like Caltech or Grinnell or Colby. I’m sure you’d see huge differences. Everyone and their little sister applies to Harvard. Very focused applicants apply to the other schools I’ve mentioned.</p>

<p>Your research parameters might need some tweaking, Disciplus.</p>

<p>Finally, why would a school devote resources to compile data on the rejected pool? Unless they already were uploading this data beforehand, it’d be foolish to analyze those files.</p>

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Some schools publish similar data showing the admit rate for students with a ACT/SAT score range of </em> or the % of students admitted with a GPA range of ___ . For example, the Stanford applicant profile at [Applicant</a> Profile : Stanford University](<a href=“Page Not Found : Stanford University”>Page Not Found : Stanford University) lists a 7% admit rate for ACT of 30 - 36 and a 3% admit rate for ACT of 24-29. Similarly they list a 7% admit rate for GPA’s of 4.0+ and a 4% admit rate for a GPA 3.7 to 3.99 (not sure how they are weighting to make > 4.0 possible, may simply treat A+ as 4.3, like Stanford calculates GPA for attending students). Obviously these percentages are not a good representation of your chance to be admitted because of the many other factors that they consider.</p>

<p>If you’re taking about the elite top-20 schools, even perfect academic stats give you well under a 50% chance of acceptance. At Brown, for example, only 29% of perfect ACT scorers get accepted as do only 16% of those who get an 800 in the math section of the SAT. Those not in the top 10% of their class only stand a 2.7% percent chance of acceptance.</p>

<p>[Admission</a> Facts | Undergraduate Admission](<a href=“Undergraduate Admission | Brown University”>Undergraduate Admission | Brown University)</p>

<p>One problem with the Naviance charts is that they show data for 5 years or more and many colleges have become much tougher to get into in the last year or two. In my experience, they are also often filled with bad data points.</p>