<p>Iunno about saying Stern kids are stupider than Ivy. The average GPA for this year's entering class is suppose to be 1430 or so. The average for Scholars is probably 1500+. I know 3 people from my school with SATs of 2300+ and 3.9+ GPA going to NYU this year.</p>
<p>And....In terms of placement I think Stern is better than everywhere except for Wharton. Granted, I think they get a greatest number of people into ibanks, just not all into the best positions. </p>
<p>Columbia vs. Stern is somewhat of a tossup. After all, Stern is focused like crazy on getting their graduates Ibanking jobs and columbia...meh...u study economics. Chicago is very good at economics but I'd recommend it over Stern only if you want to pursue a PhD and enter academia. If you want to go straight into the workplace, Stern wins.</p>
<p>"After all, Stern is focused like crazy on getting their graduates Ibanking jobs and columbia...meh...u study economics. Chicago is very good at economics but I'd recommend it over Stern only if you want to pursue a PhD and enter academia. If you want to go straight into the workplace, Stern wins."</p>
<p>so economics is not a good undergrad major if u want to pursue IB?</p>
<p>The only reason that IU has around 60 I-Banking people is because not many people want to do I-Banking at IU. These are midwestern people, not a lot of them show ambition to go and work on Wall Street or in NYC, rather live in a surburban environment. If you show an interest, you're going to get a job in I-Banking at IU, they are very good in placement. IU got an A+ as one of the top 12 schools in the country when it came to placement, meaning only 11 other schools in the country were as good as IU in job placement. Would I rank it 3rd? Heck no, Wharton, McIntire, Sloan, Ross, and Stern are all easily better.</p>
<p>gellino how long ago were you an analyst, must have been a while back since you have gotten your MBA already, your right if you go back 3 years let alone 5 there will be barely any chance an IU student was on wall street, but within the last two years it has picked up immensly, two years ago IU was only placing a miniscule number on wall street like 4 or 5, then in 2004 it placed 20-30ish, and then in 2005 it placed 60, and it is only predicted to go higher. But if you do look back there is by no means a pedigree of IU students on wall street, only future prospects</p>
<p>Honestly, I didn't think McIntire was that good. I was looking at their statistics and they have VASTLY fewer people going into Bulge Bracket IB firms compared to Ross/Stern/Wharton. </p>
<p>Makes me wonder if I should have considered their echols offer...</p>
<p>I like how people talk out of their asses, as if they actually know something about this mysterious process. </p>
<p>If you pick a school based on what job you migh tthing you want at graduation you are going to be the least happy person on campus. Face it, if you didn't go to an Ivy school or a flagship state school people will always be like "oh where is that again?" Unless you are from the area most people have not heard of davidson, emory, bowdoin or schools like that. More people will see "Ohio State" or "University of Texas" and think oh thats fun or oh thats a good school.</p>
<p>So if you don't get into an ivy life isn't over. Stern is not the "next best option" its another option and going to stern won't set you for life or a "top business school" won't either. Just be good at what you do and you'll do fine.</p>
<p>Honestly, unless you get into HYPM or Wharton, go to Stern its the next best option when it comes to investment banking. Also, peope on CC tend to really under-rank Umich Ross but having 1/3 of their entire busienss class go to work in investment banking is pretty amazing and that is the entire ross school. I heard the acceptance into IB of Finance majors at Umich was close to 50% which is an amazing statistic.</p>
<p>Stern/Ross are pretty much equal. Stern gets more in terms of sheer #s but that's because more people who want to do Ibanking go to stern. Ross is equally successful at placement though.</p>
<p>I've heard mixed things about cornell. I think that it's accepted that Cornell is not quite as good as Stern/Haas/Ross but it may be due to the fact that they are a rather new program. I think they're ranked 12th on US News. <em>shrugs</em> I don't think it would be a bad choice though?</p>
<p>"Honestly, I didn't think McIntire was that good. I was looking at their statistics and they have VASTLY fewer people going into Bulge Bracket IB firms compared to Ross/Stern/Wharton."</p>
<p>McIntire was excellent at sending kids to a huge variety of boutiques and some kids to PE last year. If you accepted the echols offer, you definitely have made the right choice...........you will enjoy both your learning experience and the social life immensely. Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, UBS, Barclays are McIntire's corporate partners and JPMorgan and Citigroup are McIntire's corporate sponsors.</p>
<p>yeah, people should start thinking about aspects other than wall street placement when it comes to choosing a school. If anyone chooses a school solely based on its wall street replacement, he/she's probably the biggest idiot ever.</p>
<p>i think u guys read waaaaay too much into the differences between the top 15 or 20 schools</p>
<p>their exact recruitment numbers or whatever dont really matter in the grand scheme of things. where they offer business or econ does not really matter. the skills you learn and the way you think about things is way more important than whats on the syllabus, in 10 or even 5 years how relevant will the specifc stuff for the undergrad degree you got be? not that relevant. learning how to independently make decisions is what really matters, that is what you get out of a good college experience, not whether you went to the #3 or #7 finance school or whether you learned some valuation theory and other people didnt. if you go to a top 20 or 25 school you can do whatever you want if you are talented and work hard, people sweat this way too much i think.</p>
<p>I agree with newedition too. Yes, there is a difference between a top 5 university and a university that is not ranked in the top 50. But there is virtually no difference between top 25 universities.</p>