Study Buddies

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of California - Berkeley
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<p>Just curious, do you guys prefer to study in groups for classes? Or have you found that other students just do shady things to you; like mooch of your notes expecting you to have all the answers, borrowed your notes and not given it back, actually distracted you from studying by fooling around too much etc.</p>

<p>In general, feel free to share any interesting stories here about studying with your fellow golden bears.</p>

<p>Also, if anyone wants to be my study buddy for any of the following classes just PM me :) :</p>

<p>Integrative Biology 131a Applied Anatomy
Asian American Studies Program 172 Asian American Literature
Music 27 Introduction to Western Music
Chinese 183 Traditional Chinese Culture
History 4A The Ancient Mediterranean World (currently waitlisted, taking either this or the Chinese class)</p>

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<p>Yeah, pretty much all of the above.</p>

<p>I've had study groups before, but we generally don't get anything done. And yes, a lot of people mooch. Strangers have asked me for my notes, and it's annoying because I don't know their first names.</p>

<p>So from now on, I try to avoid study groups, except with friends. But then we just usually talk and get nothing done.</p>

<p>The general rules for study groups:
1) If a member of the opposite sex invites you to join one without being your friend first, that person is shady, meaning he/she wants more than friendship.
2) Only effective if you study alone first, meaning that you would have studied anyway so the study groups would be a waste of time.
3) Some people pretend not to know anything just to mooch knowledge off of you, or to see how much you know. Be weary.</p>

<p>But first and foremost, be weary of shady guys, girls.</p>

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<p>More emphasis on needadvice's rule #2. Don't expect to form a study group the night before an exam and get through the material! You need to study yourself before such a meeting.</p>

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<p>"Yeah, pretty much all of the above.</p>

<p>I've had study groups before, but we generally don't get anything done. And yes, a lot of people mooch. Strangers have asked me for my notes, and it's annoying because I don't know their first names.</p>

<p>So from now on, I try to avoid study groups, except with friends. But then we just usually talk and get nothing done.</p>

<p>The general rules for study groups:
1) If a member of the opposite sex invites you to join one without being your friend first, that person is shady, meaning he/she wants more than friendship.
2) Only effective if you study alone first, meaning that you would have studied anyway so the study groups would be a waste of time.
3) Some people pretend not to know anything just to mooch knowledge off of you, or to see how much you know. Be weary.</p>

<p>But first and foremost, be weary of shady guys, girls."</p>

<p>Wow, thanks for the advice NeedsAdvice. I actually wrote those things not expecting people would actually say it happened to them. But wow, that pretty much sucks.</p>

<p>"1) If a member of the opposite sex invites you to join one without being your friend first, that person is shady, meaning he/she wants more than friendship."</p>

<p>You mean she like wants to hook up or use her sexuality as a means of enticing you to fork over your notes? </p>

<p>"3) Some people pretend not to know anything just to mooch knowledge off of you, or to see how much you know. Be weary."</p>

<p>That's just shaddy. </p>

<p>Any more stories guys? I'm interested. Also, this helps us incoming transfers and freshman be aware of the shady people out at Berkeley (We are probably not used to this type of cutthroat environment coming from our community college or high school...So this helps a lot!)</p>

<p>Thanks in advance everyone :)</p>

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You mean she like wants to hook up or use her sexuality as a means of enticing you to fork over your notes?

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<p>Both. Usually though, it is for the hook-up. It's really disturbing if you aren't attracted to that person and they try this.</p>

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That's just shaddy.

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<p>Yep. </p>

<p>I am sorry to seem so cynical, but I was naive as a freshman and did not realize many people here are users. It's probably made me more of one (a*hole that is) because now I'm less willing to help others.</p>

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<p>There are several rules.</p>

<p>Start early. You will avoid procrastinators.</p>

<p>Its best to find people equally smart as you to vote with. Dumber people will slow you down with questions you already know the answer too. Smarter people may intuitively know things and be unable to communicate with you.</p>

<p>Have similar expectations. Study groups are a good type of way of assuring you will study in a consistent matter well before a test. Some people use them to just all meet up and quietly study together. Some people use them to meet up and do problems together. Some people use them to ask about hard homework problems they've already done. Be sure everyone understands the intent of the groups.</p>

<p>In general I found it hard to form study groups at Berkeley because you won't know people well enough in your class for the suggestions above to be feasible.</p>

<p>I tended to befriend a few people and then check who made similar scores to me after the first midterm (or do well if you are an underachiever) and then ask to form a "study group" or at the very least go to them before things are due to double check certain things.</p>

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<p>Wait, so what's wrong with a girl asking me to study because she wants to hook up?</p>

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<p>I'm not a fan of rule #1, NeedAdvice. I think plenty of shady people exist in Berkeley, and that in many cases in might be that the person involed is interested in more than just one or a few study sessions, but to assume it's the case? I think it's more fair to assume it is the case if the study group only consists of you and the other person, and I say this (and don't make it sex-specific) because it is quite possible for a person of the same sex who is homosexual to do the same thing. Quit being so heteronormative! :D (The women's studies - I mean "gender studies" majors would be so proud. Basically, I think rule #1 is excessive, but one should, as in the last case, be weary, but one can be less weary in the case of larger study groups.</p>

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<p>"Wait, so what's wrong with a girl asking me to study because she wants to hook up?"</p>

<p>I'm with my fellow transfer on this one; especially if the girl is hot or if the girl has a pulse. ha</p>

<p>"I'm not a fan of rule #1, NeedAdvice. I think plenty of shady people exist in Berkeley, and that in many cases in might be that the person involed is interested in more than just one or a few study sessions, but to assume it's the case? I think it's more fair to assume it is the case if the study group only consists of you and the other person, and I say this (and don't make it sex-specific) because it is quite possible for a person of the same sex who is homosexual to do the same thing. Quit being so heteronormative! (The women's studies - I mean "gender studies" majors would be so proud. Basically, I think rule #1 is excessive, but one should, as in the last case, be weary, but one can be less weary in the case of larger study groups."</p>

<p>heteronormative? haha, nice word. I'm going to throw that randomly into any CC argument I get into :D</p>

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I'm not a fan of rule #1, NeedAdvice. I think plenty of shady people exist in Berkeley, and that in many cases in might be that the person involed is interested in more than just one or a few study sessions, but to assume it's the case? I think it's more fair to assume it is the case if the study group only consists of you and the other person, and I say this (and don't make it sex-specific) because it is quite possible for a person of the same sex who is homosexual to do the same thing. Quit being so heteronormative! (The women's studies - I mean "gender studies" majors would be so proud. Basically, I think rule #1 is excessive, but one should, as in the last case, be weary, but one can be less weary in the case of larger study groups.

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<p>haha, okay Drab. I'm not that politically correct then... But yeah, let's just say this much, the only time I have asked a guy who was not my friend for help regarding a class was the time I found him attractive. I was attracted to him, and that's the only reason I even talked to him...</p>

<p>Basically though, if they are your friends, study groups aren't "shady" but if some random person approaches you, or a person you kind-of know in your class asks you, then yeah, it's shady. I still stick by that rule, and my best friend (who is a guy) says that 90% of guys who try to befriend girls one-on-one always want something more.</p>

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the only time I have asked a guy who was not my friend for help regarding a class was the time I found him attractive. I was attracted to him, and that's the only reason I even talked to him...

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ok, so you are superficial and shady--congrats to you! not the same for others!</p>

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ok, so you are superficial and shady--congrats to you! not the same for others!

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<p>Ok, Mother Teresa. As if you wouldn't like to study with someone you were attracted to.... Seriously, how can people criticize others for being superficial when everyone is like that. People are naturally attracted to what they deem as good looking people.</p>

<p>You are a hypocrite--congrats to you. Not the same for others!</p>

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<p>I have personally never studied in groups. The only time I come even close is when I have a class with a roommate, in which case we might go over stuff sometimes. It's just too inconvenient for me. I'm always busy, so if I'm going to study, it's probably going to be the night before. Group studiers like to meet a week in advance, multiple times, review all notes, etc. I get by with much less study time, and it works (your success not guaranteed by my methods...).</p>

<p>I personally feel that if you pay attention in class, studying is barely necessary. Most classes I've taken will allow cheat sheets, and creating that (maybe a 2-3 hour process) is all that is needed to really get in your head what you need for an exam. If you can't do that, then you're in trouble. It means you truly didn't understand some part of the course, and expecting to learn it for an exam is pretty doubtful. This doesn't apply to memorization-based courses, though.</p>

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Ok, Mother Teresa. As if you wouldn't like to study with someone you were attracted to.... Seriously, how can people criticize others for being superficial when everyone is like that. People are naturally attracted to what they deem as good looking people.</p>

<p>You are a hypocrite--congrats to you. Not the same for others!

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You have just proven my point! You are assuming that everyone is just as superficial and shady as you, thus your point of view on males asking females to join study groups. It's a faulty assumption and you should realize in college that not everyone thinks like you--many people have different responses towards "good looks" and different approaches.yepo</p>

<p>also, being attracted to good looks is not superficial; asking someone to be in a study group just because of looks is. being superficial is being ONLY concerned with appearances.</p>

<p>And don't say "what they deem as good looking people", dont get all relativist ,</p>

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You have just proven my point! You are assuming that everyone is just as superficial and shady as you, thus your point of view on males asking females to join study groups. It's a faulty assumption and you should realize in college that not everyone thinks like you--many people have different responses towards "good looks" and different approaches.yepo

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<p>Ok, so why else would guys who don't know the girls AT ALL ask them to be in a study group? Explain this to me. The guy does not know her AT ALL and they do not speak in class...so why does he ask? Get real. I practically only have guy friends, and they tell me guys are shady. My best friend is a guy. GUYS say guys are shady.

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also, being attracted to good looks is not the same as being superficial; asking someone to be in a study group just because of looks is.

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<p>Yes, but it's called being attracted and wanting to get to know that person better...and? What's wrong with that? (Of course if the person approached does not want to know the approacher better, then they might dislike it...but still...how is the mentality of wanting to get to know someone you are attracted to better wrong?)</p>

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And don't say "what they deem as good looking people", dont get all relativist ,

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<p>It is relative. People have different opinions of what looks good to them, so I'm using my terms correctly.</p>

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<p>Let's define superficial, shall we: "being or affecting or concerned with a surface; not deep or penetrating emotionally or intellectually." So yes, attraction as a result of good looks IS superficiality, considering it pertains solely to the surface. You are not attracted to the personality, but to the looks.</p>

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I practically only have guy friends, and they tell me guys are shady. My best friend is a guy. GUYS say guys are shady.

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okee dokee so because my friend says he's an alien he is therefore an alien-in fact, my group of friends are all nerds who say they are aliens, so therefore they are all aliens, or maybe all humans are aliens because they say that, or at least all nerds====you are very good with logic

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It is relative. People have different opinions of what looks good to them, so I'm using my terms correctly.

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that is absolutely wrong. there are relative factors involved, overall it's NOT relative----the basics are very very very absolute and objective</p>

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Let's define superficial, shall we: "being or affecting or concerned with a surface; not deep or penetrating emotionally or intellectually."

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ha, you're dumb</p>

<p>thats the wrong definiton in this case, the definition that pertains to calling the disposition of a person superficial is this: 2 a : concerned only with the obvious or apparent : SHALLOW. notice the word ONLY.</p>

<p>of course you can say the second part of your definition applies, and i would AGREE! That's because it implies that other factors are not involved (as in, only concerned with looks in choosin ga mate and not other factors)</p>

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<p>Chillax yall...we're all golden bears here :D</p>

<p>To each his CC own :)</p>

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<p>needadvice needs to realize she has built herself her own little closed reality and is completely oblivious to the fact that not everyone else is like her</p>