<p>BuMp $&@$&@</p>
<p>Answer the question about how much your parents can pay…</p>
<p>Erin’s Dad is right.</p>
<p>Without knowing what your parents can afford, we can’t suggest safeties.</p>
<p>A school can only be a safety if you know FOR SURE that you have all costs covered. If you’re not sure how you’d pay for it, how can it be a safety? Acceptance is only half the battle. :/</p>
<p>*Financial aid: Yes *</p>
<p>If it’s true that you need FA, then we need to know how much your parents will pay.</p>
<p>Do you understand that as an int’l, you won’t have ANY safeties if your family won’t pay much.</p>
<p>mom2collegekids “How much aid do you need? How much will your parents pay? If you need all or nearly all costs covered, then few schools will work.”
Me “@mom2collegekids:could you please tell of those ‘few schools’ that matches my stats?”
I have quoted ‘those ‘few colleges’’. So, any one would understand how much my parents can pay.</p>
<p>Uh…just listing those colleges was not a clear indication that your parents were willing to pay the FULL COA demanded of int’ls. Next time, just answer the question with a number.
You’re the one asking for help, so help US help YOU!!! You’re the one who said that you needed FA.</p>
<p>*Please!! deadlines are approaching and the colleges that I’ve on my list( MIT, CalTech, UChicago, GeorgeTown, UWashington) are all uncertain. I need atleast a safety. </p>
<p>I have quoted ‘those ‘few colleges’’. So, any one would understand how much my parents can pay. *</p>
<p>I’m sorry, but to me, you’re not being very clear. If your parents can pay for those schools, why are you needing FA? </p>
<p>So, what are you asking for now? Safeties? Which schools from your list “match your stats”??? What???</p>
<p>anyway…almost none of those schools “match your stats”…not with an ACT 30 and being an int’l. Maybe UWashington will accept you, but you won’t get any aid.</p>
<p>You should have applied to more schools where an ACT 30 is strong. </p>
<p>Please be more clear when asking…we’re not mind-readers.</p>
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<p>That’s the cold truth.
Only a half dozen schools in America are need-blind for internationals.
All are super selective. </p>
<p>Another 25 or so are need-aware but very generous to the internationals they do accept. Still, that doesn’t make them safeties. For a student with the OP’s qualifications, they range from selective to super selective.
[Top</a> 25 Financial Aid Colleges in US for International Students (Need-aware) - Desperate Guide: Undergraduate College Financial Aid, Scholarship](<a href=“http://www.desperateguide.com/us/top-25-financial-aid-colleges-in-us-for-international-students-need-aware]Top”>http://www.desperateguide.com/us/top-25-financial-aid-colleges-in-us-for-international-students-need-aware)</p>
<p>On the above list, one of the least selective is Union College (Schenectady, NY). Its RD deadline is January 15, so you still have a little time (assuming you can get your grades, LORs, etc. to them before that). Union seems to be a pretty good school for STEM majors. Over 30% of its students major in STEM fields (compared to ~20%, or less, at some other LACs). If it means anything to you, US News rates its engineering programs #16 among ADET-accredited schools whose highest degree is the bachelor’s or master’s (no PhDs). On average, they meet nearly 100% of demonstrated need for students who are awarded need-based aid. I don’t know if that rate carries over to internationals, though.</p>
<p>An ACT 30 would be at the upper edge of the median band for Union College.
The average aid to internationals who get it is about $33K (according to their CDS). Total costs are ~$55K (according to the Kiplinger’s “best value” college site)</p>
<p>At IIT (for comparison), the average aid granted to the internationals who get it is much less, about $11K (according to their Common Data Set file for 2010-11, section H). Total costs appear to be about $48K (according to the IIT site’s cost estimator).</p>
<p>*An ACT 30 would be at the upper edge of the median band for Union College.
The average aid to internationals who get it is about $33K (according to their CDS). Total costs are ~$55K (according to the Kiplinger’s “best value” college site)</p>
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<p>Is that the avg “need based aid”? If so, this student can’t use that as a guideline for how much he’d get. His recent post suggests that his family can pay a lot (and maybe he doesn’t really need aid, but is just trying for some). If that’s the case, then a school may determine that he qualifies for NO need-based aid.</p>
<p>Indiana University? (not sure when the deadline is)
University of Minnesota, also
Or, you know, community college…</p>
<p>I have heard Case Western gives really good FA and seems like a fit for your interests (but would still be a safe school)</p>
<p>@Mom2collegekids: I’m very very sorry for the confusion that I’ve created through my earlier posts. To be frank, my family can afford only up to 10k per year.</p>
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<p>On this point, I find the Common Data Set information unclear.
Section H6 is labelled, “Aid to Undergraduate Degree-seeking Nonresident Aliens”. Lines 2 and 3 allow a school to indicate, separately, whether need-based and merit aid are available. Union checks both. However, the CDS/H6 does not clearly break out need-based and merit amounts awarded to international students.</p>
<p>georgetown does not offer an engineering program, or i think it doesn’t. With those stats you can get some merit-based aid but schools like MIT and Caltech do not give merit based aid because most kids have similar stats. You may get some at a school like lehigh or bucknell but I’m not totally sure.</p>
<p>* I’m very very sorry for the confusion that I’ve created through my earlier posts. To be frank, my family can afford only up to 10k per year. *</p>
<p>OK…now we have a number.</p>
<p>UWash isn’t a safety since it won’t give you aid.</p>
<p>Right now, you have no safeties.</p>
<p>Try…Miss St, LSU, UAH, UAB and see what they will give int’ls with your stats. They all are good for engineering and usually give merit to int’ls. If you had applied to Bama before Dec 1 as an eng’g major, you would have been given free tuition plus 2500 per year. With your parents 10k, you’d have nearly all costs covered. :(</p>
<p>Just curious, why don’t internationals qualify for aid? Its not a government run program that administers it, i thought it came from the school’s endowment or something like that?</p>
<p>Also, a family friend of my grandparents who sent their kid over from I forget which country to harvard got a full ride. His parents weren’t us citizens at the time but he had a pretty amazing story so that may have done it for him…</p>
<p>captain,
OP is NOT of Havard Quality, so what you are saying has no relevance. The average U’s don’t give much for international FA and OP really don’t have the stats to get into those will give full ride out of endowment…</p>
<p>Cn’t think of any engineering school that fits the OP’s situation, Olin and Coopers are the two that give most tuition aid, but they are NOT safeties for a long shot.</p>