SUNY Binghamton or City College?

Binghamton is very strong in CS. If you find that you like the school, you should have no concerns about their program. If you are interested in more choices, look at Buffalo as well.

@merc81 It’s not so much that I had concerns about the program, more so I want to look at it comparatively to CCNY to see which program was more academically reputable and strong.

If you look closely at the CCNY CS Curriculum, you will realize that you are required to do Calculus III, while SUNY Binghamton requires only Calculus II.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ccny.cuny.edu%2Fcompsci%2Fupload%2FRequirements-for-B-S-Computer-Science-Spring-2012.pdf

OP, did you take Calculus III at your CC? FYI, only about 30 students graduate from the CCNY Computer program each year (~346 enrolled). They also have a Computer Engineering program as part of Grove School of Engineering. As a transfer student, is SUNY Binghamton a financial safety for you? In another thread, you mentioned that you need a good level of FA.

The two buildings of the CUNY Advanced Science Research Center (owned by CUNY) and the CCNY Center for Discovery and Innovation (owned by CCNY) are shown here (per @sybbie719, post #12):

http://www.usa.skanska.com/projects/project/?pid=380

http://www.kpf.com/projects/the-cuny-advanced-science-and-research-center-the-city-college-center-for-discovery-and-innovation

The comparison was impied to some extent. BU is very strong in CS and academically reputable overall. So Binghamton’s program would compare favorably to most U.S. colleges. CCNY may be fine as well, but only to the extent that their program might equal BU’s, not exceed it.

@Jamrock411 Yep. I did take Calc III. Will also be taking Linear Algebra next semester. Binghamton will be a stretch, but it’s as cheap as I can get for a safety. I don’t really live near any good colleges, so commuting isn’t much of any option for me to lower down costs. I’m really hoping to get into one of my match/reach schools that will hopefully offer better financial aid.

@merc81 Ah, got you. Thank you! :slight_smile:

bump if anyone has any more suggestions?

A lot of kids from my school go to Bimghamton and they are all generally smart so it’s a good safety school. Also keep in mind that since you’re transferring you should see how far you can reach- a lot of spots open. Binghamton is a good school especially business though

@CraigCollege17 I’m definitely casting a wide in my college apps :slight_smile: Just have to make sure to cover all the bases.

SB and Buffalo have the strongest CS programs, and in fact Binghamton is the lowest ranked CS program among the 4 SUNY university centers. Of course, these are graduate rankings and not necessarily indicative of undergrad quality, but does give you an idea of the faculty strength, departmental resources, and reputation in industry.

SUNY SB #40
SUNY Buffalo #63
SUNY Albany #101
SUNY Binghamton #112

Graduate department rankings used outside of their designed purpose can be misleading to students looking for an undergraduate college. By an undergraduate program evaluation, “Great Schools for Computer Science/Computer Engineering Majors,” Binghamton and Buffalo are the two schools from post #28 recognized.

(“Great Schools for 20 of the Most Popular Undergraduate Majors” / The Princeton Review.)

@goldenbear2020 I just recently found out about those rankings. I was pretty surprised. I will be applying to those schools as well (I get a total of four free apps to SUNY schools).

@merc81 That’s somewhat of a relief because I do prefer Bing to the other SUNY schools.

How much do you guys think that graduate rigor influences undergraduate?

“How much do you think that graduate rigor influences undergraduate?” (#30)

Looking at Binghamton’s average student SAT scores in comparison to the other schools, it appears not at all. (Though I’m not suggesting that Binghamton’s and Stony Brook’s scores, for example, aren’t close. They are. Still, Binghamton’s are higher.)

As a more general comment, using any rankings or evaluations outside of their designed purpose is probably using them in a way that college students/graduates, in particular, should avoid based upon the analytical skills they should have acquired in college. Citing sources is also a basic high school/college skill that tends to get overlooked. These comments are not related specifically to this thread, but relate more to what I have seen on CC in general. (Post #28 included significant, useful caveats, and is not the focus of this comment.)

As for the source cited in post 29, it may come with its own shortcomings. However, its design, at least, is intended to measure undergraduate programs.

I have no idea why you would think SAT scores are a function of undergraduate rigor.

Since no question was asked (#32), I won’t attempt a reply to that.

I think most people are telling me Binghamton then?

Yes either Binghamton or Buffalo. Buffalo is nice city for a student, friendly and inexpensive.

Buffalo is is bit too far for me I think.

Thank you to everyone for their help :slight_smile:

Hi everyone,

Just an update for everyone as a thanks for all your help! I ended up applying to Binghamton and getting in along with a scholarship that I applied for there :slight_smile: But due to a strange turn of events on both my part and on admissions, I ended up applying and being accepted to Stanford University where I will be attending this coming Fall!

Thanks again to everyone who helped me through this difficult admissions process!

Wow!!!
Hmm, can you tell that tale? No one applies to Stanford 'by accident '!!!

So you got into Stanford as an OOS community college transfer? Wow.