<p>easydoesitmom, I just had lunch with a lovely young woman who finished her master's degree in opera at Peabody Conservatory a little more than a year ago. Opera is alive and well and there are many young people who are attending school for it, it seems.</p>
<p>Yes. as a matter of fact, one can get a degree im opera from Yale. Eastman and OCU (although the have it under the Vocal Performance section). Opera is alive and well and has grabbed my D's attention big time!</p>
<p>Lulu'sMomma, is that opera major from Yale something new? I haven't heard that Yale offers that, and it would be a major, right, and a BofMusic, not really a 'degree in opera'? I know that Richard Lalli has taught courses in the music department for quite some time in Vocal Performance which might include some operatic repertoire study but I wasn't aware that there is now a major in opera. Would love more info!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.yale.edu/music/admissions.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.yale.edu/music/admissions.html</a></p>
<p>scroll down to the voice part and you will see opera as well as Art Songs,etc. I know someone with the degree so I assume it exists-as least that's what her diploma reads!! OCU will permit you to double major in MT and in Vocal Performance (which is opera and Art Songs) or just to take one or the other and then has a Master's in Opera too.</p>
<p>Just for those who are not familiar, the Yale programs you are talking about are GRADUATE degree programs.</p>
<p>At Yale, on the GRADUATE level, you can get a PHD in Music, a Masters in Music (MM), a Masters in Musical Arts (MMA), or a Doctor of Musical Arts (DMA) in either Composition or Performance. Within Performance, there is Vocal Performance. The Vocal Performance Track offers either Opera or Early Music. Again, these are GRADUATE programs.</p>
<p>Also, please be aware that the undergraduate music degree at Yale (which is not in opera anyway) is a BA, not a BM.</p>
<p>There is a BA/MM program.</p>
<p>Richard Lalli is an Associate Professor of Music in the Dept. of Music, which is not the School of Music that has the graduate programs in opera. The Dept. of Music has the BA undergraduate degree (which is NOT in opera), the MA and the PHD program.</p>
<p>Thanks for clarifying it. Things must have changed in the last 20 years (but what hasn't??!!)</p>
<p>oh my goodness.</p>
<p>i've got an audition at fredonia for MT in about two weeks. and i'm real nervous.</p>
<p>i ultimately decided on fredonia because it's twenty minutes from where i live and my family can't afford to have me going all over the east coast auditioning at all kinds of schools. also, i live in new york, so i get the resident cost, and it's a state school so it's not as expensive as private schools. i got my acceptance letter unusually fast. i didn't do early decision/action but my acceptance was sent out as if i had.</p>
<p>since i go to school close to fredonia, we constantly get student teachers from here. all have been very very compatable and smart (except for one, she was just out of her mind). out of the SUNY schools, the three biggest art (fine arts) ones are fredonia, potsdam, and purchase.</p>
<p>I don't know if there is/will be any interest in this, but since no one has given a rundown of an audition at Fredonia, I thought I'd share my experience.</p>
<p>I auditioned yesterday (Sat. Feb. 3) at the school itself, in the morning. The campus is very small and very cold as it is right on the lake, but it is nice and quite pretty. We drove around a bit and found Mason Hall, where we were to sign in. There were about 8 of us auditioning in the morning, half in Mason, and half in Rockefeller Arts Center (a short walk). We had a chance to warm up if we got there a little early, then they walked us over to the other building (I auditioned at Rockefeller) where I waited for a little bit. The students working at the auditions were very friendly and helpful and chatted with us and answered any questions we had. In my audition room were two guys (heads of the theatre and music program I think) who were super friendly, they got up and shook my hand when I walked in, gave me a minute to get situated with the pianist and then had me get started (songs first). They were very responsive, I didn't look directly at them, but could sense them getting into my songs and monologues and stuff which is a nice change from the typical auditor.</p>
<p>After my songs and monologues, the music auditor came to the piano and had me do some pitch matching which started out just being one tone (he played, I sang it back), to I think 5 different tones. Then there were some rhythms, all on one pitch, similar kind of thing. Then he had me sight read two lines (he also asked me what key they were in and how I could tell). I messed up once or twice but he was very nice and let me try again. Overall they were very friendly and chatty.</p>
<p>Next I went to the theory test which was very hard (most people got from the low teens to the mid 70 percentages), but is just for placement, not for acceptance, I believe. </p>
<p>Then came the dance audition, during which the people auditioning later that afternoon joined us. We were auditioned by two of the dance teachers, and first we did ballet. We started at the barre and did very simple exercise(all explained in the least ballet-like terms the teacher could manage, for those not trained in dance). We also did some things in the center and across the floor. Same deal for modern (no barre, but a center warm-up type thing and some things across the floor), and then a short, pretty easy jazz routine. We did things in groups ranging from 2-5, and we each had a number pinned on our outfits.</p>
<p>After the dance audition, there was a quick informational meeting during which we found out that approximatley 100 people auditioned for about 13-18 spots. There seems to be a strong alumni connection and the faculty seems very dedicated to the success of each student as an individual. While I didn't immediately fall in love with Fredonia, there were no real downsides to my experience there (besides the snow, which I am used to, being from Ithaca, NY!). It seems like a good program and they are strengthing their dance program which is definitely a plus!</p>
<p>Oh and for a quick little anecdote, I was looking for the dance audition, and took a wrong turn and ended up in a guys locker room (I am a girl, haha). I turn around and see this big sign saying "No Females allowed, Men Only!" and was like aah! Luckily I was right near where I needed to be, but at least I have a funny story to take away from the day!</p>
<p>As always, anyone with specific questions about the day, feel free to ask me!</p>
<p>Katie</p>
<p>i think i'll follow in katie's footsteps here.</p>
<p>i also auditioned at fredonia a few days ago. katie and i met!</p>
<p>she summed it up pretty darn good, except i had a different building/room. my friend and i both decided to try out on the same day, and we had the same accompanist. this would have been a problem, but the people who were running the auditions were very nice and accomodating about it. my friend auditioned in the same room that Katie did, and the accompanist (also our music teacher and the producer/director/accompanist of all of the musicals) said that the atmosphere in that room was a bit stuffy and in the room that i was in, it was free-r. my friend didn't like that room, she said it reminded her of a dungeon.</p>
<p>i got nervous during the q and a when the head of the department said that about a hundred people try out for sixteen to eighteen spots. but heck, if they don't want me, life will go on.</p>
<p>the dance teachers were very nice and catered to those students who hadn't taken dance before. ex: instead of saying "plie" it was "bend!" the dance portion had all of the people who auditioned that day. i think about sixteen. the dance studio was nice. and for a school who is just changing their dance portion of their audition, they did a pretty good job.</p>
<p>the theory test was ridiculous. very stupid. i just ended up clicking randomly on the answers, i didn't even look at the questions...i was tired and i just wanted to get the day over with. thank goodness it's only for placement and not acceptance. i scored a thirty five with my system of random answers. which is better than some people did who actually tried. haha. but it doesn't matter, if you get below an eighty five, you must enroll in music theory classes if you go.</p>
<p>after the auditions were over, my friend and i decided to go out for lunch/dinner at applebees, where it was auditionee central. the good thing about fredonia is that the town has a lot of stuff in it so if you needed something you wouldn't have to drive out of your way to get it. ex: pleanty of restaraunts, eckerds, walmart, quality, jc penny's, big lots, movie theatres, blockbuster, car repair places. and it's right on the thruway that would take you straight to buffalo or erie if you needed to go.</p>
<p>Are any of you auditioning for SUNYBuffalo?</p>
<p>I am not, Fredonia is my only SUNY</p>
<p>i just got accepted majoring music business, can anyone tell me their experience with the major and did you intern?
also how do you feel the college overall?
i hear its a small town
but is it extremely boring?
thanks</p>
<p>Congratulations!
My daughter's boyfriend attends SUNY Fredonia as a VP major and neither he nor his friends have complained of boredom. Yes, the town is not that big, but they have a Wal-Mart and some smaller stores and it is within an hour's drive of Buffalo and the big malls there (the drive during the Christmas season takes considerably longer-at least once they hit the mall parking lot!). Cleveland is 2 1/2 hours away and Rochester is a little over 2 hours. The campus is prettier than many of the othe SUNY schools and they have a Starbucks and a large school store too. If you have any other questions, please PM me and I'll try to link you up with someone at the school to correspond with.</p>
<p>update i am majoring in music business and got accepted to both colleges
i am having a hard time deciding can anyone help me
thanks. I know they both have good music programs
thats why I can't decide which one is better</p>
<p>My d just got an email this morning saying she was accepted into SUNY's MT program. Anyone else out there get accepted? Is there a current student I could talk with about the program?</p>
<p>I see a few acceptances listed -- does anyone know if they are finished, or is there another wave to come?</p>
<p>I would give them a call. My daughter auditioned on Feb. 2 and we heard back from them in about 3 weeks. Good luck to your son or daughter. Is this their first choice?</p>
<p>Thanks -- it's a student of mine, and this was her first choice. I'm not sure whether it's good or bad that she hasn't heard anything! I'll tell her to give them a call.</p>
<p>Hey all, I'm a MT student at SUNY Fredonia, so if anyone has any questions about the school or the program, let me know! =)</p>
<p>Jennifer</p>
<p>Jennifer, how many students do they average in each class? It was difficult to get a feel for the program since the only person that spoke to us was Stephen Reese (sp?). Honestly he didn't paint a very good picture of the program, almost talked to us like why bother with this profession when it will be difficult to find work. It would have been nice to have the MT head there to talk about the program or have some students talk to us. I think the program is probably very good, but his presentation didn't help to sell the program or the school like some that my daughter auditioned at. She is still interested in it though. Are your seniors getting work after graduation?</p>