Swimming in College---need some help, not too many threads on sports at Ivy League

Does anyone know about swimming at Ivy League schools? Will being interested in a swim program aid you in being admitted? I was looking at current swimmers’ times at Dartmouth, Yale, Cornell…and my times now are only tenths off of some of their swimmers (I’m still a Junior) These schools are division I schools, however, are they only going to recruit or have the want for swimmers that are dramtically better than current swimmers?..my times will probably be faster than most of the kids on these Ivy league teams my senior year if i continue to improve as i have been…will they give my admission any priority?

i haven’t seen too many threads on this site about swimming in collge, so any info. would help., even if you have info about other sports at competitive colleges.

<p>Just to add, my SATscores are at the averages for many of the ivy league schools, i'm ranked second in my class, and have sev other ECs</p>

<p>The ivy league coaches and coaches of any swim teams where your times are going to be compeitive will be very interested in you. Yes, by all means fill out the recruit or info or contact coach section on the websites. Then study which teams will most benefit from you. If you are a butterflyer, and the team has several fast butterflyers who are juniors and seniors, they are not going to be as interested. Also check out how many seniors are on the team, if the team is too young, there might be a drop out issue. Finally when looking at the div 3 schools, see how important swimming is to the school by their D-3 rankings and getting a feel for the clout the sport has--this goes for D-1 as well. There are D-3 teams that are more intense than D-1. An example is in Pittsburgh between D-1 Duquesne and D-3 CMU. You do need to visit the coach and preferably should talk to some of the swimmers to find out the place swimming has on campus. If they tell you that no one cares, the coach has no clout, etc, it may not be worthwhile to apply there. As a potential D-1 swimmer, you must know kids who are on a number of college teams and you should try to get feedback on college situations. It is too tough of a sport and the season is too long to go to a school where there are no benefits to swimming on the team, and if you are trying to get a leg up on admissions to a tough college with the sport, you need a coach with some clout with the athletic dept to help you out.</p>

<p>Try to locate a parent named Dizzymom and see if she can give you some information on this sport at Ivys. The coaches can't contact you directly until after this June, but you can write to them now and initiate contact and they are allowed to respond. The coaches we have met (not swimming) seem to like email in particular. Good luck and keep us posted.</p>

<p>Give me your times, I'm a hopeful Ivy League swimmer and polo player myself.</p>

<p>Your right, there are not enough athlets on CC...</p>

<p>If you want to be recruited as a Div 1/2 athlete, yoiu need to get going asap. If you have tapes of your meest or clippings of your times, get them to the coaches at the colleges you have in mind pretty quick. You should also have your ACT/SAT scores to the NCAA Clearinghouse whenever yout ake them. Transcripts should be sent as soon as you complete your junior year.</p>

<p>a girl in my class got recruited for princeton for diving.</p>

<p>but then again, she's nationally ranked and is going to the olympics in china, not to mention having good grades too.</p>

<p>50 free: is a 22.44
100 free time: 49.2
100 breast: 1.05
(coach put me in all free this year, my breast time went up)</p>

<p>I've been dropping my free times by nearly a second every year...so i am confident i will be down to atleast a high 21 in the 50 free my senior year, my 100 free will prob. be at the most around a high 48. </p>

<p>I was also named a scholastic all-american swimmer by USA swimming, if that matters</p>

<p>Hey sinbad...what are your times, what college you looking into</p>

<p>If you want a great swimming program and a great college experience, look at Kenyon!</p>

<h1>1 div 3 team in the NCAA for the past 25 years...</h1>

<p><a href="http://athletics.kenyon.edu/x437.xml%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://athletics.kenyon.edu/x437.xml&lt;/a> for more info</p>

<p>cornell is the only one that pretty much is guaranteed if u are recruited, yale is not guaranteed, but being recruited still helps u a lot, and dartmouth's swim program is a little waivery since it was cancelled for one year.</p>

<p>i would say with those times u should have an easy time with cornell, my friend went to dartmouth, (im a swimmer btw), and was recruited with a 59 in the 100 breast so im not sure really how rigorous their swim program is, but im not sure if those times are good enough for yale. </p>

<p>i didnt look for recruitment but i would say u have a good chance at columbia - my friend was recruited with a 48 free, 50 fly, 1:57 im. (mainly for the fly). yale will probably be a little waivery since they recruit some top swimmers and a 49 100 free isnt terribly rare. but i would send in stuff anyways.</p>

<p>First make a list of schools based on your academic, career and social interests, and make some decisions (if you can) about your preferences for school size and location.</p>

<p>Then start checking your times against their current team members.</p>

<p>Two friends who play water polo - one recruited at Harvard, the other at Princeton, for what its worth. However, if you really love to swim and want an excellent education, too, you need to consider Kenyon. No better place for both.</p>

<p>Hi Chanski ... lots of good advice so far ... the first being to proactively contact coaches and express your interest while sharing your times and academic stats ... in addition I'd check college websites which typically will list coaches and times of current swimmers.</p>

<p>I also recommend first checking into which colleges interest you and then check into their swiming programs ... and Google is a great way to go ... I just tried to find the NCAA champioship standings from last year (to get a listing of schools to consider ... from DI, DII, and DIII) and ran into this site ... this looks like it has a lot of great stuff.
<a href="http://www.collegeswimming.com/?show=recruit%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.collegeswimming.com/?show=recruit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I'd also recommend ... <a href="http://www.ncaa.org%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.ncaa.org&lt;/a> ... so you can learn the rules about recruiting for swimming.</p>

<p>While they have not been focussed on swimming there are a fair number of strings in CC about college sports and recruiting and I'd recommend you search for them. Topic include the differences between DI, DII, DIII ... recruiting and how it can run from being a "tip factor" to getting a full scholarship, and, perhaps most importantly, shared stores of kid's experiences as they went through the recruiting process and all its ambiguity and frustrations.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>chanski, good job with the free! My times are nothing compared to yours. I started in 9th grade with my hs swim team and no stroke help. I'm mainly sprint free/breast</p>

<p>1:07 100 Breast
2:20 200 Breast
55 100 Free (lol)
24 50 Free</p>

<p>I'm mainly counting on being a water polo recruit. I greatly underestimated Ivy League sports.</p>

<p>Interested in:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford (lol)
Columbia
Cornell
Brown
UC Berkeley
some others, haven't figured it out yet</p>

<p>yes do not underestimate ivy league swimming, harvard, yale, and princeton attract some of the strongest high school swimmers, since swimming is not a professional sport, most seek schools with great academic reputations</p>

<p>any more info about swimming in college...</p>

<p><a href="http://www.swimindex.com/meets/2005/eisl/results.shtml%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.swimindex.com/meets/2005/eisl/results.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>My swimming career was somewhat damaged by a six-times-dislocated right shoulder, but my 50 free was around 28 seconds I believe. Nothing spectacular, but then again I did race in baggy shorts. (in case you haven't noticed, my high school team was pretty low key). I also dove, but again because of the shoulder I can't do any reverse entries. My hardest dive was probably a double front flip off the one meter, prob could've gotten a two and a half off the three meter with a little practice, and probably a two and a half off the one meter with a little more work.</p>