<p>I've heard that it is never suggested that incoming freshman should take CHM 2210 (Organic Chem 1) I just want to know why is that so. Thank you!</p>
<p>It’s the same reasoning behind why Preview Staff strongly suggest you don’t take Biology your first semester; these classes are a lot of work. Even some established students who have developed good study habits struggle with these classes. I personally took CHM 2210 as a Dual Enrollment student my senior year of high school and struggled most of the semester with it because the class is just harder than the AP classes I had become accustomed to. Ultimately, it’s just safe to take moderate level classes your first semester to acclimate to the environment of the University and get used to studying the right way instead of cramming like many AP students (myself included) thrived on to pass tests and perhaps even the AP tests themselves.</p>
<p>Thank you for your input. Would you suggest that I take CHM2046 or CHM2047 first and then take CHM2210 in the Spring? I don’t know if this helps, but I took AP Chem, Physics B, Bio, Calc AB in the same year and got 5’s on all of them.</p>
<p>To be honest, if you managed a 5 on AP Chem and AP Physics I would say you could pull off Orgo first semester if you consciously make yourself study every night. I am also an incoming freshman so take my advice with a grain of salt, however I did take both CHM 2046 and CHM 2210 as a senior in high school and it’s manageable with the right work ethic and motivation. Are you premed or a chem major? Because that changes things. But to asnwer your question if you are deciding on a sequence to take before CHM 2210 my choice would be CHM 2046. If you got a 5 on AP Chem CHM 2046 is a breeze except for the last chapter that covers transition metals because AP curriculum doesn’t really cover that (at least my teacher didn’t cover it) so you’ll get an easy A.</p>
<p>Well thank you so much for your advise. I’m chemical engineering/pre-med, but I’m not sure how that would work out. I went to the pre-heath advisor, and she told me that I have to choose which one is my priority so I don’t know what I’m gonna do yet. </p>
<p>As for pre-med, I assume you’re gonna say that I HAVE to take CHM2045 AND CHM2046 because the med schools want to see the actual grade, but I looked on the websites of the med schools I’m interested in, and they all say that you can take higher level classes if you have AP credits for the general classes so I’m considering taking CHM2210 first semester freshman so I can take Physical Chem, Analytic Chem, etc. to fulfill my chemical engineering degree requirement and be able to graduate in 4 years.</p>
<p>But my only problem is that I’m also taking Honors Physics with Calc and possibly Honors Calc 2 and I don’t know how hard they’re gonna be. Anyway, I am really really appreciated your input. Thank you!</p>
<p>^^^
How much AP credit do you have? D’s chemE, and she’ll graduate in 4 years w/o any summer classes. She took no chem her first semester, then Chem 2046 2nd semester. Fall of her second year, she took Orgo I and pchem, then spring she took Orgo II. She’s taking analytical chem this fall, and biochem in the spring (not required, she just wants to, and it’ll serve as a tech elective).</p>
<p>zebes</p>
<p>Zebes, I have 34 credits (10 for Physics B, 8 for Chem, 8 for Bio, 4 for Calc AB, 4 for Macroecon) Would you suggest I take Orgo I first semester of my freshman year?</p>
<p>I can’t really “suggest” for you, as I don’t know you, and that would be presumptuous on my part. I would work with an academic advisor at UF and make the decision. I will say that D had 45 AP credits so that’s what she’s working off of. She had mostly 5’s on her AP exams, including Calc B/C (770 SAT II). And, a 4 on chem (740 SAT II). And she did not start with Orgo even though she tested out of 2045 and 2046. She retook ChemII to get her feet wet, and she re-took Bio II for the same reason (even though she had credit). For her, I think that starting w/ Orgo would have been a mistake. But I cannot speak for you. </p>
<p>zebes</p>
<p>Zebes, thank you so much for sharing your daughter’s choices with me.</p>