Talking to a coach off campus?

<p>Have your D call the coaches to let them know she is coming - if she misses the coaches, leave a message, and perhaps send a follow-up email as well. If possible, make sure the coach has all her information in advance - contact info, game film, etc. At the game, she should just say hi and make sure the coaches see her there. (And if the coach initiates more of a conversation be ready to go with it, but don’t expect it) Then have her follow-up with another phone call. Since she’s are a junior, if the coach is interested, they will send your daughter an email making sure she knows exactly how and when to get in touch. For sophomores, make sure the coach has information on your daughter’s other contacts - like her high school or club coach. If they are interested, they can call her hs/club coach to tell you exactly when and where to reach them. It was our experience that if coaches are interested, they make sure the recruit can reach them. And a follow-up phone call is a far better time to have a “real” conversation than while the coach is actually coaching!</p>

<p>I can’t find it in the rules anywhere that coaches aren’t allowed to reply to emails before July 1 of junior year. Could you point me to it?</p>

<p>[2011-2012</a> NCAA Recruiting Calendars - NCAA.org](<a href=“http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Issues/Recruiting/Recruiting+Calendars/2011-2012+Recruiting+Calendars]2011-2012”>http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Issues/Recruiting/Recruiting+Calendars/2011-2012+Recruiting+Calendars)</p>

<p>Find the sport and pull up the calendar for that sport. It is different depending on the sport and division.</p>

<p>In the upper right corner is a PDF by year in school and sport too</p>

<p>I understand, but my question was where it says that emails are the same as phone calls, specifically, that coaches cannot reply to a recruit-initiated email before the end of junior year. I know that text messages are considered equivalent to phone calls (there was a clarification to that effect somewhere), but I can’t find anything that would equate emails to phone calls. Presumably, that would also mean that they can’t reply to emails more than once per week during senior year.</p>

<p>beenthere2, I can’t find a definite rule about email reply, either. I will say, unless the rule has changed in the last 2 years, there were many coaches in violation when my daughter was being recruited.</p>

<p>Varska has it right. This exact scenario happened to us. We attended an away game at their invitation (close to our home). We approached the coaches to say hello and they had to advise they were not allowed to speak due to NCAA rules. It was embarrassing but worked out - now playing for this coach.</p>

<p>In the back of the NCAA Guide for the College-Bound Student-Athlete you will find a table explaining the rules by sport, division and high school class. The sections that discuss recruiting materials, is referring to emails, letters, camp brochures and admissions information.</p>

<p>For most sports, DI coaches can reply or initiate emails/letters on or after Sept. 1st of the prospects junior year. Before this date they can only receive admission information, camp information and questionnaires.</p>

<p>For most sports, DI coaches can return a call or initiate a call on or after July 1st after the prospects junior year.</p>

<p>For all sports, DII coaches can reply or initiate emails/letters on or after Sept. 1st of the prospects junior year. Before this date they can only receive admission information, camp information and questionnaires.</p>

<p>For all sports, DII coaches can return a call or initiate a call on or after June 15th after the prospects junior year.</p>

<p>For all sports, DIII and NAIA coaches can respond to a prospects email opening day of classes of 9th grade. This also means that starting the first day of high school, DIII and NAIA coaches can send you an email, letter, they can call you and return your call.</p>

<p>The actual guide is here: <a href=“http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/CB11.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/CB11.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>D started receiving questionnaires and camp brochures sophomore year. The emails hit at 12:01 am on September 1st of her Junior year - very cool day for D and her teammates :slight_smile: </p>

<p>But the most important part of the process is having your S or D work hard at contacting coaches!! They can contact coaches as much as they want!</p>

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<p>I will respectfully challenge that statement.</p>

<p>[Recruiting</a> - NCAA.org](<a href=“http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Issues/Recruiting+Overview]Recruiting”>http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Issues/Recruiting+Overview)</p>

<p>This talks about using technology and addresses emails.</p>

<p>[Recruiting</a> Emails from College Coaches | College Recruiting Blog - Athletic Scholarships Blog | NCSA](<a href=“http://www.ncsasports.org/blog/2010/03/24/ask-coach-taylor-what-are-the-restrictions-about-emails-from-college-coaches/]Recruiting”>http://www.ncsasports.org/blog/2010/03/24/ask-coach-taylor-what-are-the-restrictions-about-emails-from-college-coaches/)</p>

<p>A recruiting website</p>

<p>Lots of slightly wrong info here.</p>

<p>For D1 sports,</p>

<p>as a sophmore,</p>

<p>email
You can email the coach, they can cannot email you to recruit you.
They can, however, send you information about their camps or their school.</p>

<p>Several coaches have seen my sophmore daughter play. They have expressed their interest by sending an unsolicited email that starts "as per NCAA regulations we cannot contact you until Sept. 1 of your junior year but here is our camp information.</p>

<p>phone
You can call them and if they answer they can talk about anything. BUT, they CANNOT call you back. If you get their voicemail you will not hear back from them so try again.</p>

<p>off campus
Incidental contact is ok but the coach is supposed to cut the conversation off VERY quickly</p>

<p>on campus
If you are going to be visiting the campus, you should call ahead (see above), to arrange an appointment to see the coach.</p>

<p>Coaches can reply to emails after Sept 1 of the Junior year.</p>

<p>It is the coach’s responsibility to know and properly apply the recruiting rules. High school students (and their parents) do NOT need to become experts on these rules. Let the coach do his/her job. They know when/how/where to appropriately contact h.s. students within the rules for a particular sport.</p>

<p>While you are correct that it is the coaches responsibility to know the rules, it is absolutely in the athletes and their families best interests to completely understand the rules as well. The more you are aware, the better YOU can manage the process of YOUR recruitment. Unless you are one of the top prospects in the nation in your particular sport, sitting around and waiting for the coach to contact you is not in your best interest at all.</p>

<p>I think it is still important for the student to know and understand the rules. First, if a sophomore emails a coach in May and then doesn’t get a reply back, I am sure they would wonder why or get a bad impression from that coach. Also, for highly recruited athletes, knowing the rules would also help them from being illegally recruited. If that coach is caught while that player is in college, various sanctions could hamper his playing experience, limit the ability to go to nationals, etc.</p>

<p>I never said you shouldn’t contact the coach. What I said was for the h.s student and his/her parents to try and study the rules to become EXPERTS at how to interpret all of them and when they do/do not apply isn’t the best use of one’s time. A general understanding of any process you are involved with is.</p>

<p>In our case, the scholarship D earned will be worth approx $120K over 4 years and she will be attending a school that is a perfect fit both academically and athletically. We accomplished this through a lot of hard work and a thorough understanding of the process. With all due respect, it was a fantastic use of our time :)</p>

<p>I am junior and looking at d1 schools… Everyone who has given me advice about it says definitely don’t talk to them off campus! You can say hi… But other than that they really don’t want to talk to you and risk breaking the rules… And it’s really not helping you at all to make the coach whose recruiting you feel uncomfortable</p>

<p>I agree with SteveMA that you should know the rules well enough to make sure you’re not misled by a lack of return communications from a coach. It’s hard for a high school student to realize that he or she needs to keep calling a coach until reaching him/her because the coach may be barred from calling back. And I’d hate for a junior like Rose122 to be holding off making off-campus contacts based on old wives’ tales and see her (?) window of opportunity closing. If it’s worth devoting a weekend to an official visit some place, it’s worth taking a half-hour to go over the NCAA’s recruitment guide to learn the rules; they really do try to make it pretty clear. And, as long as you’re making an effort to comply with the rules, I wouldn’t worry that going up and saying hello to a coach will make him/her feel ‘uncomfortable’, unless you’re knocking on the front door of their home or something absurd like that. Remember that these people are professionals at dealing with recruits and can simply say - as others have noted - “it’s good to see you but at this point we really can’t take further.”</p>