<p>Sorry if it's in the wrong forum but I didn't know where to put this...</p>
<p>I've considered going into teaching (specifically high school) but the salary is so low. Yeah, I know I'm not "supposed" to go for a job on salary and if I like it but I don't think I can survive with 30k a year.</p>
<p>Is it possible to be a high school teacher and make 80k+ a year? What jobs are similar to that that have better salaries?</p>
<p>well...i know a little bit on how teacher salary works (i asked my ap physics teacher and he was a little open about it lol)</p>
<p>normally high school teachers get paid on how many subjects they teach. so if you taught chemistry and environmental science, your pay would be higher than a teacher who just taught chemistry. likewise, if you also were a supervisor for a club or a coach for a sports team, your pay increases as well..</p>
<p>im not sure of the pay of an AP teacher compared to a non-AP teacher, but normally for a teacher, the more they involve themselves in different activities, the more they get paid..</p>
<p>COLLEGE professors, on the other hand, get paid more. if you end up working as a professor in a university that is popular (like the ivies or top tier/second tier universitiees), your pay is VERY high. same for professors that work in universities in urban areas..</p>
<p>im not sure about 80K, but i hope you can match your dream + a good salary in the future.</p>
<p>I've never heard of a high school teacher making 80k, even if they did teach multiple subjects and were involved in a lot of other things. 80K is more in the range of a starting professor salary, I think. So if you really want to teach and get good pay, you should go for your PhD. </p>
<p>Btw, a high school teacher makes more in the range of 40-45K, not 30K. Regardless, it comes with good benefits and a lot of vacation time. (You can also sacrifice your vacation time during the summer for some extra pay.) It's a steady job but not one you should go into if you care a lot about the moolah.</p>
<p>Well. I know for a fact [umm this teacher got me into the computer system and I saw the payroll, but we don't talk too much about that] that the teachers at my high school are making like 65K. Not all of them, but most of them are. And from what I've heard from several of my teachers, they're making a lot more at my public high school than they would at a private school, so I'd stick with public school teaching if I were you.</p>
<p>However, about that "summers off" thing, I've heard that more and more now they're pushing teachers into doing like seminars and other crap like that over the summer and "volunteering" their time for other stuff, so there could be less vacation time than you think.</p>
<p>My APUSH teacher is the highest paid teacher at our school. He makes about 90K a year. However, he teaches APUSH, Western Civilization (for duel credit at local Community College), Sociology (duel credit), Economics (duel credit), is the head coach of varsity volleyball, and assistant coach to girls basketball, and boys track. He is also one of only two teachers at my school qualified to teach an AP class and the only one with a doctorate.</p>
<p>one of the chemistry teachers in my school gets paid a lot. she has a PhD, which is a bonus.</p>
<p>she teaches AP Chemistry, Research, runs the National Honor Society, works in a Research lab over the summer at a local university, and runs a community service club</p>
<p>I agree with jk_91, while it depends on the teacher, it's generally hard for teachers to make 80k a year and not the most profitable job if you're seeking high pay.</p>
<p>LOL There's an online teacher who teaches a total of like, 20 latin classes. He also teaches in person at a high school. I think he makes about $115,000 in all. </p>
<p>Other than that though, I don't think you'll be making that much money as a teacher.</p>
<p>College professors seem to have a lot of flexibility and job opportunities. I know one professor who teaches at a university and two local community colleges Monday through Saturday. I'm sure she makes a comfortable $100K+, but is it really worth all those working hours? I know some people live to teach, but I wonder how they always (some of them) keep up their consistently good lectures after having already taught three other classes the exact same material that day. And I'm talking about those 2~3 hour classes, not those petty one hour classes in high school.</p>
<p>So I guess the answer is to be a professor instead huh? :)</p>
<p>My dad is actually a high school AP Calculus teacher and he's making about 85k-90k now but he's been working a little over 20 years in a bad area. (lots of violence and crime)</p>
<p>If you want to teach at an Ivy League or other top tier school, do you need to get a diploma from one of those schools? Be an alumni I mean.</p>
<p>The salaries at my high school sort of went like this... Starting was about 40K, and if you got your masters (which all teachers were required to work towards- that's what sucked up summers in our school) you would be making around 60K or so. It probably increases again once a doctorate is earned, but we only have one teacher with a doctorate. It's possible to support yourself on 40K and still have money left over for vacations and all that jazz.</p>
<p>Being a professor seems completely different to me than teaching- depending on the school. At a small college, it would be similar, but I would never ever ever ever want to teach a class of 100 or more. Even 50 or more would be sort of terrible- it's hard to be creative like that.</p>
<p>And CamaroLove- No, you don't need to be an alumni. There are tons of people who graduated from huge state schools that did a lot of research and published a lot and ended up teaching in the Ivies.</p>
<p>A Ph.D is a Doctorate, so yeah, you call them Dr. </p>
<p>Teachers don't need a masters in education, but I believe they need to take a one year teaching course or something like that, I'm not sure. But afterward, you need to take an exam and pass it. I know my freshman English teacher held a masters and she told us that she does make more than the other teachers at school who only hold a bachelors.</p>
<p>I think secondary teachers usually get a masters in their subject area. Some do it in Education or some sort of school Administration, I guess...</p>
<p>During undergrad, I am sort of double majoring in Spanish and Secondary Education- I have a full major in Spanish with a lot of Education classes to supplement it. And you definitely have to pass more than one exam- there's SEVERAL, depending on your state and what you're teaching. (And if you want to teach in a public or private school- private school teachers don't need to be certified).</p>
<p>-More degrees = more money. Get a master's degree in education, or in your field (or both!).
-Go to the suburbs. Teachers there tend to make more money than city teachers. However, teaching jobs at suburban schools will be more competitive, so it could be tough to get a job there right off the bat. Once you're more experienced, you should be okay.
-Stay with one school for a long time. A biology teacher who's been working at my school for 30+ years makes over $70k per year- they increase your salary according to how long you've worked at the school.
-Teach a subject where there's a lot of demand for teachers- math, science or a foreign language.
-Look into teaching at private schools. Again, you'll need experience to compete for those jobs, and there's no guarantee that they'll pay better, but I've heard that they usually do.
-Coach a team, lead a club or two, get involved somehow.
-If this interests you, try to position yourself to get a job as a principal or VP after you've been teaching for a while- maybe even superintendent. That's where you'll find the 80k+ salary you say you're looking for.</p>
<p>That's how you can make more money, though I honestly think $80,000 a year is an unrealistic goal for a teacher who isn't a college professor (and I don't know exactly what college professors make, but unless they're at the absolute top of their field, they're usually not rolling in dough, either). If teaching is what you want to do, though, you'll learn to live with the salary. You'll learn to budget well, and maybe you won't live the way you do now, but you can make a living off what you make doing it.</p>
<p>From one future teacher to another, good luck! :D</p>
<p>You can earn up to $8000 extra here if you have a doctorate degree. National Board Certified Teachers can also earn extra money. I had one teacher who made $94,000, but he was also 49 years old and taught three different levels of math (no AP though).</p>
<p>I think it also depends on how long you've been working for the school. If you last a long time, you can totally make $80K. Our art teacher has been at our school for over twenty years (taught my friends' parents) and makes $80-something-K.</p>
<p>Although, perhaps the idea of "more-classes, more-money" is more responsible for his high pay. He teaches Basic Drawing I, Basic Drawing II, Painting, and Studio Art (and AP Studio Art, not that he ever recommends anyone for AP though).</p>
<p>From what I heard from my teacher, she accumulates more pay as the amount of time she has been teaching at a district increases, but if she decides to move to a different district or state, she has to start all over on a lower tier of pay and benefits again. And it's possible for teachers to save vacation and sick days over the years; my history teacher in 9th and 10th grade has enough that she'll be able to take vacation days until she retires.</p>