Telluride Association Summer Program ( TASP ) 2008

<p>i've only written 2 of the essays.</p>

<p>AIYAHH</p>

<p>what's the average length for these essays? the max is 2 pages single, but that's soooo long. is 1 page adequate?</p>

<p>so u guys i m thinkin of doing my second essay on britney spears' recent behavior and how the media hurts people. is that good or is the britnal too clich</p>

<p>I don't think they really care that much about your PSAT score .. they'd rather see great essays... ^</p>

<p>Internationals are not judged any differently, you are more than encouraged to apply. (Also unlike college, you are not assessed in a different pool). I know multiple 2007 taspers who were canadian. :-)</p>

<p>dancegoddess: While that is an interesting topic, it would not fit into the critical analysis topic. This may work as a topic of your choice, but you are not actually analyzing anything, hence not a critnal. :-)</p>

<p>Lanky: Don't waste your time applying. Your stats are obviously not up to par and Britney spears, so trite.</p>

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Why is TASP so great? Someone please tell me...why is it considered in such a high light to colleges?</p>

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<p>i don't exactly know the answer but it has something to do with the fact that like 5% of applicants get in......</p>

<p>Well, it's more like the people who get in are those with the ability to get into good colleges...I think.</p>

<p>what if you're like from hictown, usa, and don't have all those literary awards, national leadership winner, etc.? Do you stand a chance of getting in?</p>

<p>I don't think it matters. Well, maybe a little bit, but if I'm not mistaken, most of the selection process relies on your essays.</p>

<p>you probably do have a change still b/c they care most about essays. Awards, etc are secondary, from what I've read/heard.</p>

<p>Um, I was wondering if I should .... not apply? My two main interests are science and literature - I know that they're two completely different subjects. my awards and ECs reflect that interest, though.
but anyway, of course I don't know much about politics, international relations, debate, etc. I mostly keep track of health issues and human populations, sociology, how technology impacts people, etc.... so it's like science with a humanities-related spin. Is that something TASP miiight even want, or should I just not even bother...? Wouldn't they think it was weird if I had "works in a lab, science program, science olympiads, tutor in science" and then suddenly "literary magazine, newspaper," etc...?</p>

<p>Well, my primary interest has been in the sciences so far (from like kindergarten..hah) but I've recently found a love for philosophy/psychology/psychoanalysis and the such. I am definitely applying - TASP looks so amazing. So just do it. :)</p>

<p>So for my second essay, I'm writing about how Korean students moving to America for "a better education environment" puts them in a Catch-22 and actually harms them in other ways (that is, other than in education) too. I (personally) think it's a problem. an Okay one? or just too culture cliche??</p>

<p>And would it be counted as critnal if I wrote the second chapter of the BOOK in 1984 (The other two party slogans are explained in chapter 1 and 3 but chapter 2 never shows up) I mean it's not really an ANALYSIS but doesn't being able to write that second chapter in favor of Orwell's world (hence the chapter would be an argument AGAINST Orwell's world) show that I can analyze the text and such? Or should I just go try to translate Beyong Good and Evil over the next life time and present my argument on how I think Nietzsche is a jerk???</p>

<p>Hahah, long post..thanks for the feedback ;D</p>

<p>Musechick and I talked about this a little bit on the phone the other day. TA is not just philosophy du jour and discussing/analyzing books. There is space for people of any interests and just because you arent already a master at caribbean culture doesn't mean you aren't a good candidate for the seminar. If anything, you will gain more out of a seminar that you are not entirely familiar with. That being said, if the topics dont interest you at all dont apply. However, if you approach tasp open minded, you may be pleasantly surprised. Also there hasnt been much talk about this yet, but seminar is only one little part of tasp there is so much more and it really is about community. TA isn't going to turn away from you because you have worked in a lab, that is an experience many people haven't done and something you could bring to the community. </p>

<p>Also you have been way to into this on these threads to not apply anymore, so you better apply :-P</p>

<p>Mihan: that is a fine topic of your choice, there is nothing wrong with writing something personal about you. :D</p>

<p>I have no idea about the critnal, that sounds really cool though, and entirely doable. It seems like your approach is an analytical one, but I am still unsure. hmmm...</p>

<p>True, true..just reading the thread makes you want to be at TASP right now..sigh* I can just imagine it..</p>

<p>Haha, but thanks on the critnal! I just wasn't sure it would fit the essay prompt since it wouldn't be one of those intro-threebodyparagraphs-conclusion type things..it would be more like...err. Well, I'm not sure yet, but I've been reading 1984 over and over to get the writing style right..(well that, and also that it's been my favorite book - I've read it 19 times..haha) I emailed them a couple of days ago asking if it was okay..haven't gotten a response back yet, but I really want to get these done before school starts again (yikes! in four days!!!)</p>

<p>That sucks you start school in 4 days... I wouldnt be to worried about them not replying to your email yet, they are probably just out on break. If you are in the mood and passionate about the essay, I would go for it.</p>

<p>If you are worried about it not being a 5 paragraph essay then dont worry about that. Last year I didnt even have a thesis. :)</p>

<p>Hey, um, forgive me if this question's already been asked, but I <em>really</em> didn't want to read through 27 posts to find it.</p>

<p>The first time I heard of TASP was when I received a letter in the mail inviting me to apply to it, presumably because of my PSAT score. It claims that the Telluride Association does not discriminate on the basis of... a whole bunch of things, but I see no mention of age. Having skipped two grades, I'll be fifteen during the entire camp. Actually, the entire brochure makes no mention of age, as far as I can see.</p>

<p>I think I can demonstrate my "maturity" based on my current position as Student Body President at my school, my participation in community service clubs, and my sophomore standing at my local university (as well as junior standing in my high school), but I think that I may be automatically disqualified on the basis of age (because I might not be able to connect with 16-17 year-old juniors?). Applying is a lot of work, so I'd like to know -- has anyone had this problem in the past? Should I apply for the sophomore seminar instead?</p>

<p>Woah.</p>

<p>I should be bowing down to you, that is truly impressive.</p>

<p>That is definitely an issue I would call TA about. I truly have no answer. Not all hope is lost though. Last summer there was a kid at my tass who was going into senior year (skipping junior year). </p>

<p>You obviously have a pretty unique situation, but I am sure TA would be more than accommodating. You obviously seem excited about tasp and you by no means have issues with connecting to students older than you, so I am sure it will be fine.</p>

<p>Also, I am sure when you turn 15 will be a factor... I am going to be 16 the entire summer, so while it may seem daunting (idk if it does), there wont be a huge age gap with everyone.</p>

<p>any tips on what kinda mood to take w/ the conflict (questions 2 & 3) issues. i mean, i know i need to be open-minded, but that's really vague. Should i be kinda sarcastic, liberal, stick to the old traditions, etc.?</p>

<p>also, what if you're reading list isn't all that impressive, like thrillers like the Da Vinci Code? I know that it was a bestseller, but some of my other books don't go really deep content-wise</p>

<p>Moin America
I plan to apply to tasp from Germany and i have a different age problem since in Germany one normally has 13 years of school and currently i am in year 12, which makes me a junior in Germany at the age of 18. I really hope they don't disqualify me for being to old ;-(
english being my second language i hope i stand a chance of getting in compared to all the brilliant writers on here thinking about the right "mood" while i comb through the dictionary to find the right words. CC makes you feel so minor, one constantly thinks "ohhh he/she is so much better than me" ;-)</p>

<p>Henn G., they won't disqualify you for being old. At my TASP, and a few others, there have been kids that were 18 at the time too (the one I'm specifically talking about was from Turkey, so the educational system was different). :) At mine, there were also kids who had just turned 16, so they were the youngest.</p>

<p>Also, a lot of people have gotten in with English as their second language, especially (and mainly?) the internationals. :) Don't worry about it. English is my second language too. ^^ To the person asking about being too young, ummm. I'd guess that they do this based on grades, not age, BUT just call to make sure. That's truly your best bet. Call, call, call, and ask. :)</p>

<p>D-Yu: there's no TASPlication guidebook, kiddo. Just go with what feels right and defend your position, whatever it is. JUST GO FOR IT. Anyone who tells you that you should take such and such position is bullsitting. There is no one way to write it, no one way to think about it, no one way to anything. Just do it, defend what you're saying, and you're done. As for the reading list, just list iiiiiiit. Some people have few books that are really deep, others have tons of "not as deep" books, others have both, others have some deep, mostly not...there's a wide spectrum of reading experience and interest, so don't worry.</p>

<p>AGAIN, GUYS, this is something I have to stress: DON'T FREAK OUT OVER THE BOOKLIST. DON'T FREAK OUT OVER THE BOOKLIST. In fact, don't freak out over the application itself. JUST. DO. IT. DO. IT. </p>

<p>Don't ask what position you need to take, don't ask how many books you should list, don't ask what color ink you need to write with or if you should use Verdana versus Times New Roman (personally, I find TNR to be ugly, hehe), don't ask if doing the critical analysis of an old book will be better than a new book better than a graphic novel better than a poem. These things are things that, first of all, NO ONE knows the answers to (save perhaps for the ink thing, lol, or other technical/stylistic issues), and second of all, YOU have to decide. This application is one that showcases YOUR ideas, YOUR judgement, and YOUR personality, so GO WITH IT.</p>

<p>This, by no means, is meant to discourage you from asking questions or discussing your positions, but I really have to state that the questions you make should be...well...useful and logical. You can't ask what your chances are, because no one knows this. If you ask about international students being able to apply, that's something we can answer (btw, that's a yes!). If you ask about what a critical analysis is or what you're supposed to do with one, that's something we can answer. If you want to discuss your points, or need feedback on an essay, we can do that, too, but we CANNOT say if a topic is too cliche for Telluride or if being conservative will get you Brownie points or if you should whatever. No one here is a TA representative, :).</p>