Telluride Association Summer Program ( TASP ) 2008

<p>Sadly I'm checking CC at school during my open hour.
I should go ask my teachers for recommendations..
oh.
yeah.
I'll go do that now. ;)</p>

<p>^ When did school start again for you? It seems ridiculously early to be back at... THAT place.</p>

<p>OK, is anybody including a works cited page on an essay? If so, which one? 'Cause I've been going back and forth on that all day.</p>

<p>My school started on Wednesday. It was evil.</p>

<p>As for works cited: the only really viable place I could see it is on the Critnal (thank you muse), and honestly, unless it's really obscure or it's a translation from a foreign language, I don't know why they would NEED it. However, it certainly wouldn't hurt to put it on there.</p>

<p>The "issue" essay isn't supposed to be a research paper, so I don't think you'd need it there. If you get a few statistics from somewhere, again, I guess you could put them on there (Rather, if you do use facts, DO include a works cited page. However, including things like that doesn't really seem necessary.)</p>

<p>The rest are just personal experiences so...</p>

<p>So obscurity cries for a citation?</p>

<p>I guess I'll have to cite then.</p>

<p>Thanks Disneyguy.</p>

<p>you don't really need to include a works cited. if you're quoting someone, you can just include that in the essay. i think i used one outside quote for my critnal (something i found in an e.e. cummings anthology). and the issues essay shouldn't need any citations. they want YOUR thoughts, not culmination of other people's ideas.</p>

<p>marimare: you don't really apply for a particular program (telluride makes the final program selection in late april), but you can list the order of your preferences. we had a couple of debates last year as to how much your preferences actually matter (my interviewers said one thing, my factota said otherwise, and then one of the directors said something else). so take that as you will. haha, it's good that you've grown to like it after realizing the six essays thing :) actually, they do come very handy when you write your college essays (i'm using a condensed version of one of mine as a supplement, and another one as the main essay for one of the colleges i'm applying to). lindeek said it well; at this point, don't think about the acceptance rate. it's not in your favor, but don't let it get you down. if you want to go and are meant to go, you'll have a great summer. if not, you'll probably have a good summer anyways. have some backup options open in case too.</p>

<p>sorry if i missed anything; those of you who emailed me, i just finished emailing everyone back. happy essaying!</p>

<p>Marimare- haha, I thought the same thing as you at first. In any case I'm done with four of my essays now and I've decided that I'd much rather go to TASP than do something sciency over the summer, though my chances are probably better of being accepted somewhere they care about standardized test scores. :D</p>

<p>does anyone have good ideas on other camps to apply to besides just TASP?</p>

<p>ah god i like the analysis essay.. i'm learning a lot from it, even if the essay itself is not that good.</p>

<p>Do you guys think transcripts are very important? I go to a school that doesn't give grades... do you think that will be a setback?</p>

<p>No, I don't think grades are important, and I think your school might, in fact, make you better prepared for TASP. Just check with TA and see if you need to include some kind of confirmation of that from your school-- I'm sure if there are graduating seniors in it, there must be some kind of form letter that explains their grading philosophy. Maybe even just a list of classes you've taken would be acceptable. Telluride's very good about accommodating exceptions to the rule; all you need do is ask.</p>

<p>I wish I went to your school. That sounds like such a good philosophy!</p>

<p>I would love to go to college in a place like Reed where they don't tell you your grade on all your papers and tests: they just give comments. Technically, you have a GPA, but I think it would relieve so much stress if we, as a culture, removed so much emphasis on grades.</p>

<p>why am i under the impression that TA wants you to write about a conflict that relates to ... other people? I've written about 3/4 of the conflict essay but it's pretty self-centered (as in the problem only relates to me.. it doesn't really have anything to do with dealing with people, etc..) and focuses on intrinsic versus extrinsic motivation.... should i focus on something more group-oriented? I know that it's mostly about what YOU want to present and not writing whatever you think that TA wants to hear, but I have started another conflict essay that deals more with people-interactions.... which should i submit?</p>

<p>I need to get some idea of what an argument constitutes (for the critnal). So as a hypothetical example, what would be an argument that I would make if I did a critical analysis of Harry Potter 1? hopefully many people have read this book :)</p>

<p>and also, how often did you past TASPers use quotes from the text in your critnals?</p>

<p>lots of questions, I know, but also, for the critnal, are we just supposed to select one aspect of the story (plot, setting, conflict, character) to analyze, or are we supposed to analyze them all (or as many as we like)?</p>

<p>I think it really depends on your argument and how plot, story et cetera support it. For harry potter 1 one could argue that the first episode was a book written for children and analyze the characters, how harry potter represents typical childrens problems (conflicts with parents , being bullied by peers because of being different...) and how thats emphasized in the language and setting of the story. If you would do one of the later episodes how the muggle-wizard conflict involving hermine has something to do with racism in british society or even that voldemorts gang ( forgot how its called) is a wizard world SS. I'm not that much in Harry Potter ;-)
For my argument about All quiet on the western front, which i've stated a few pages ago, i focused of those aspect relating to it, hence the neutral sterile language, the thematical narrowness of the book bla bla bla</p>

<p>I really don't think they prefer a group related conflict as long as you write an amazing essay. Mine is about how an internal conflict too</p>

<p>General question: are y'all titling your essays?</p>

<p>another question..how long were your critnals? mine is like 600 words so its exactly one page...i feel like its on the short side</p>

<p>egh, my critnal is 1500+ words. ...</p>

<p>whoa..........im screwed</p>