<p>Hi M-O-P - Sorry nothing has come up yet on any end for your daughter. I think some neighborhoods being discussed are commercial and people have different definitions of safe.</p>
<p>The most important thing is that your daughter have “street smarts”, which a previous poster mentioned. I had to teach them to my kids who didn’t grow up in a city. </p>
<p>Until something permanent is found she can find lots of hotels or summer rentals which have been recommended. I don’t know where North Beach Hotel is in relation to her job so can’t comment on that.</p>
<p>The Mission District is very popular for young adults. Much of SF is undergoing gentrification so the neighborhoods will be mixed.</p>
<p>I totally agree with parent1986. I’ve lived all over the city and there are a few rules a city dweller learns: don’t walk or ride the bus with your ipod on; be conscious of your surroundings; exude an air of confident purpose while walking; etc. I’ve never been mugged and I’ve been here 30 years. The reality is that young adults and some of us middle-aged adults can’t afford to live in those crime-free neighborhoods. On second thought there are no crime free neighborhoods, not even Russian Hill or Pacific Heights.</p>
<p>North Beach isn’t a bad first step, lot’s of character, restaurants, lively streets at all hours. Once she starts her job she may well get steered to housing by one of her co-workers. That’s the way it went a few weeks ago for a young man I know doing an internship in the city. He was desperate and had to stay in a hotel for the first week, but once he made contacts in his job a friend of a friend knew somebody with a room. </p>
<p>Tell her to keep checking craigslist, and the suggestion to look for a student sublet in Berkeley near Bart is a good one.</p>
<p>definitely agree that there are no crime-free neighborhoods. but of course some people think that if they see people of color, the neighborhood must be crime-ridden. whatever.</p>
<p>and berkeley is most definitely NOT crime-free!!!</p>
<p>calimama and bopambo - I don’t want to derail the thread but I live in what I think is likely the safest area in SF and it is cheaper than any of those others that were mentioned. Also, it is entirely mixed racially - no group predominates. So I was not saying you should only live in haughty or white neighborhoods (sorry if I read too much into your post cm). My neighborhood is just a bit too boring for most young adults to want to live in, and I understand that.</p>
<p>Sorry doughmom, it was hard to tell from your short post exactly what you meant. Sounds like you live in a great neighborhood, would you name it so the OP knows about a really safe feeling area?</p>
<p>OP, I would advise your D to be careful in San Francisco.
I would advise looking for a place accessible to Caltrain in, say, San Mateo or accessible to BART in Daly City, and commuting right up to SF.
SF is a city with many problems.</p>
<p>doughmom, my comment wasn’t meant to single u out. i was speaking/writing generally. i’ve read enough on this website to know that more than a few people equate ‘bad neighborhood’ with residents of color, but i wasn’t referring to your comments specifically.</p>
<p>Ah, because Daly City is so much safer than SF? A commute from somewhere down the Peninsula like San Mateo would be terrible, IMO. Just too much of a time commitment, and likely very expensive! </p>
<p>I think commuting in from the East Bay can be tough as well, but would concede that Berkeley might work, if near a BART station. Having to take the bus to the BART station can really be a pain. </p>
<p>There are lots of nice neighborhoods in SF, both some that are quite racially homogenous and some that are very mixed racially. Substitute the phrase “not so nice” for the word “nice” in that sentence and I believe you’ll have an equally true statement.</p>
<p>update from OP: We got her into a bed and breakfast for the next couple of days to buy more time, since she has to start working on Monday. She is still mining Craigslist and Padmapper. The Monroe has no vacancies. She has applied for several apartments on one-year lease and continues to look for a sublet to tide her over. She saw one in Castro tonight that she hopes to get.<br>
Thanks to everyone for the help, and I’ll keep reading in case there are any other good ideas.</p>
<p>See if the Park Merced apartments have a vacancy. Look them up on the web. Even if they don’t they are worth a visit. It’s a large complex of both high rises and townhouses and something is likely to open up. The one bedroom high rise apartments are in your daughter’s price range. The complex is in the City just south of San Francisco State and the Stonestown shopping area. They are in an area of the City with a low crime rate and they have very good public transportation into downtown and elsewhere.</p>
<p>I’m getting mixed messages on the SOMA/South Beach area (Craigslist listings mostly lump them together). My D has put in a rental application at Bayside Villiage, which is at Delancey and Brannan, and The Studios, which is on Bluxome (near Brannan) between 4rd and 5th Street, and another place that sits on top of the Whole Foods at 4th and Harrison. We are using the crime maps available on Trulia and Padmapper, but I’m getting mixed messages from the parents here about whether you would let your daughter live in this area or not. She really likes the convenience of it, and with the Whole Foods right there, I figure she will not starve. (There is also a place at 8th and Harrison – is that worse or better?)
Thanks again for the help.</p>
<p>On top of a supermarket equals cockroaches in the apartment.</p>
<p>If she is living alone she should focus on the security of the apartment - the locks, gating, floor, etc. They can be very extensive, and they should be.</p>
<p>My memory is a little iffy but I don’t like the 8th st area that much…</p>
<p>I don’t think I would want my daughter there…I am pretty sure I wouldn’t.</p>
<p>On the map… 6, 14, 24…the Marina and Russian Hill areas are pretty
safe and nice places to live…The avenues…Richmond and the Sunset are safe but the commute is longer from there…</p>
<p>I would live in the Marina or Russian Hill area because the area surrounding Bayside Village is a little boring to me …unless you are a Giants fan…the Bayside Village area is close to downtown though…so it depends on what a person wants…</p>
<p>I guess Union Sq is close enough to South Beach. And the Embarcadero is right there …the Ferry Building has a great farmer’s market on Saturday… Or is it Sunday…</p>
<p>Another quick thought. My son’s employer provides transportation (shuttle) to work, which he did not know about until he started working. His current location is based on being near the shuttle.</p>
<p>So, your daughter may want to wait until she is actually at work to make a long term commitment. As another poster mentioned, she may meet someone at work with whom she’d like to live.</p>
<p>Can you be a little more specific on the employer location? SOMA is big area… Bayside could be close–or far. D has been scoping area for future, and MY preference would be Bayside over 4th and Brannan, and definitely over 8th…</p>
<p>Re: really short term…USF may have room until students start this semester…</p>
<p>Park Merced is certainly safe, but is awfully far away. However, you can take the M (light rail) right into downtown from there, so it’s easy - but will take a looong time. </p>
<p>Avoid 8th and Harrison, but the other locatin sounds okay. Parts of SOMA are perfectly fine, others are not great.</p>
<p>Someone mentioned the Richmond and the Sunset being safe, but a little further away - very true. The avenues are very, very safe, but can result in longer commutes. However, I would give both the Inner Richmond and Sunset a look. If one ends up along the right bus lines (e.g. on Geary where one can easily hop on the 38L), the commute isn’t bad at all. </p>
<p>One of my friends lives waaay out in the avenues, but because of her easy access to a good bus line, she actually has quite easy access to downtown.</p>