Oh, the experience? I was talking pure academics, I think you can go to any of these schools and have a great or horrible experience, it just depends on what the individual makes of it. For example If a student wants a close knit school than A&M is probably a much better fit than UT and UTD. Experiences and which school is right for a student is so varied that it would be foolish to suggest that one school fits all. I’ve just said the things I said earlier in response to the OP’s question about the rep of Texas State…which I have horribly strayed off of. UTD honors and scholarships>UT any day, but if all things equal, I’d still rank it as UT/A&M>UTD>UH and TECH>texas state
I said academic experience so I was meaning the quality of academics the school offers not the perceived reputation. I’m not saying there’s no difference between the schools, but I think your ranking is primary reputation. I am likely going to a private school out of state but for my personal situation I don’t think going to Texas State with the honors program would put me at any disadvantage versus going to UT. People have different goals after graduating so reputation may matter more, but I think a strong student can be successful at any state school and land a good job. I guess my main point is the OP shouldn’t be scared of going to Texas State or feel that he/she will become an unintelligent alcoholic with a bad future by going there.
Or I meant undergrad academic experience. I didn’t say that my bad
“I think a strong student can be successful at any state school and land a good job. I guess my main point is the OP shouldn’t be scared of going to Texas State or feel that he/she will become an unintelligent alcoholic with a bad future by going there.”
Yeah, this is pretty much what I meant when I said its up to the student to make there experience the best it can be at any school.
“I don’t think going to Texas State with the honors program would put me at any disadvantage versus going to UT”
So UT academically, all things equal, honors vs honors, regular vs regular, is better than Texas State, they have more money, and more lauded professors.
“I don’t think going to Texas State with the honors program would put me at any disadvantage versus going to UT.”
Yeah, I can agree or disagree with this statement, but either way, I don’t think that it necessarily proves that UT isn’t far ahead a better institution. Can you go to Texas State and be just as successful, absolutely. But are more kids going to be more successful from UT than Texas State, yeah, partially because UT has Texas’s cream of the crop students, and when paired with its esteemed professors and wonderful programs, success is more prevalent with UT grads then Texas State.
“but I think your ranking is primary reputation.”
The OP asked about Texas State’s reputation, so even if my rankings where entirely based off reputation(which they’re not), it still shows that State is far behind UT and A&M, because while those reputations are somewhat hyperbolic, they hold merit. Basically, while I want the OP to know that Texas State is a lesser school, they can still be just as successful, but they’ll have to resist a lot of distractions and really step up their game, from academics, to everything else if they want to show that they are just as well off as a UT/A&M/UTD grad, and it’s certainly not impossible.
Just an FYI, its not as simple as all Texas public universities follow the 10% auto admit rule. For example UT only uses the auto admit rule to fill up to 75% of available slots. I would guess they are adjusting their auto admit percentage to help match the 75% total number as it can change yearly but ultimately they have more say in the process. They start with top 1%, then top 2%, etc and work their way down when admitting. There is quite a bit of info out there about it but some if it is not current. There are also minimum SAT requirements and diploma/degree plan requirements the student has to meet as well.
This is correct ccsouth. In fact because of the large amount of students who want to go to UT, they actually negotiate every year on a lower percentage based on the total senior class instate and historic applicants. This year it was 7%, last year 8%. The other in-state universities do the top 10% (or more). For example I believe A&M will also give auto-admission to a student who gets over 1300 on his M & CR sections, others do top 25%. UT is the most restricitve. They get away with it because, due to the huge number of applicants, they would not have any room left of out od state students or for non-7% students.
A and M is 1300 and top quarter. I wish UT had some SAT auto admit policy too like 1400 or something. Honestly I don’t understand the rationale of the rule or why it was ever implemented. I guess it’s supposed to be more fair for kids at lesser high schools but if you auto admit someone with terrible SAT scores who isn’t ready for UT, what does that accomplish? It doesn’t seem like they have programs to help support students and it’s a sink or swim environment so aren’t they setting people up for failure? Also the whole CAP program seems to be relying on kids not succeeding. I know at a large state school it’s hard to give individual attention and hold anyone’s hand but maybe with a better admissions policy there would be a decent graduation rate like at the top public schools.
I have to say that for UTs part, they have support programs coming out of their ears for those students you reference. Look at TIP, Gateway, Discovery Scholars, Longhorn Scholars, FIG… The list goes on. So the improvements in grad rate are coming from better support overall and focusing on college readiness for everyone