How did Texas State get it’s reputation of a huge party school, when in the past UT has been rated as one of the top party schools in the nation yet nobody really talks about it, while kind of putting down Tx State?:
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/UT-Austin-listed-among-top-party-schools-4707426.php
I’m just wondering because I recently got accepted there but now I’m kind of scared to go…
The bigger question is are you a party student?
@albert69 No, I don’t think I am. I’m more of an introverted person
No one talks down on UT because while it does have a party culture(one that is far overstated), it also has world class academics, which for the most part, are not found at Texas State.
UT is a party school because people after studying in the week need to get all the stress out , which is why so much partying occurs , the reason why UT isn’t looked down upon like texas state is because the stereotype that goes with texas state is that your a dumb person who only goes to college to party , unlike UT which is actually hard to get into so you really can’t be that dumb. Plus most people know that UT’s workload/rigor is very hard , unlike texas state …so thats why Texas State is looked down upon unlike UT
I don’t know enough about either school because I haven’t attended but I think Texas State is getting far too much hate. I just visited the campus and it was nice plus I will likely be able to go almost for free so I’m strongly considering it. Any school that big will likely have a lot of parties but with that many students you can avoid parties and find like minded people. I think the party rep is a bit overblown. The average student at UT has significantly higher standardized test scores entering but that doesn’t mean the education you receive at Texas state will be at a lower level. I think quality of inputs it too much of a factor in rankings and I don’t think my high SAT score will be degraded if I do choose Texas State. Also the honors college appears pretty easy to get into and there’s living learning communities that can help you find people who are academically motivated and likely not as big of partiers if that’s you. I didnt apply to UT because my chances were slim being non top seven and I knew I wouldn’t get good aid. It seems like a great school but I don’t really understand why students accept CAP to a school they don’t like. I would go to whatever school you like best. It you get a very good GPA at a school like Texas State and still want to transfer it would be hard for UT to say no.
As an outside, adult observer, I think a number of Texas schools that used to be looked down on are up and coming and thriving. UTSA was a commuter school and now is a large, research university that sends many top students to top grad and professional schools. Texas State was (correct me if I am wrong) a junior college but now is a growing university with a number of strong programs.
Texas as a state is booming economically and our population is growing. UT and A&M main campuses are filled up by the legislatively mandated top few %. There are hundreds of great students who won’t get in to these schools, and they go to UTSA, Texas State, Tech, and other state Us.
^^^^yeah, but Texas A&M and UT are far and ahead of other publics. It’s not like California with its multitude of amazing options, such as UCB, UCSB,UCLA, UCSD, UCI, Cal Poly.
^^^^ are they really far and ahead?? They are very good scholls but I don’t think they are any better than UT Dallas. At least in STEM. Average SAT is the same as UT and higher than A and M so entering students are the same quality at UT Dallas. I should have finished applying there but it probably would have cost more than Texas State regardless. Also I had auto admit to A and M but just didn’t like the school personally. Also Texas State used to be a teachers college with a different name that LBJ went to. I don’t think it was ever a junior college. Any of these big state schools will have high quality professors and plenty of courses to take at any level. Reputation might matter for landing jobs but I’m hoping to go on to professional school so I’m not too worried about rep.
UTD making strides, but engineering, and business lag quite a bit behind UT and A&M. In STEM, that’s still quite the case, but the gap is smaller, specifically in computers, due to the Texas Instruments Connection. One of UTD’s saving grace is that like UH, it’s in a really good area for recruiting. When I say far ahead, I use the UC system as reference, as those schools proximity in quality is one where I call close, and the UT and Texas State as far apart. So what constitutes as far and ahead for me might be really close to others, as the UC school system is probably one that’s unique. But academically, UT and A&M(Not going to differentiate between the two)>UTD and UH(leaning more towards UTD)> Texas State, UNT, and some others.
I agree that UT and A and M have very good reputations for engineering and that Ut has a great reputation for business school. Other than just general perception I don’t really see how you are determining that A and M ot UT are much better than UT Dallas. I certainly dont see what puts a and m ahead of UT Dallas. Also I don’t see why UH is any better than Texas State. I think the average test scores are a bit better but I didn’t think the reputation is much better
Also Cal Berkeley and UCLA have fairly better reputations than other Cal schools. I agree that the UC system is very strong in general though and it makes sense with the feild of students they draw from.
I’m using US News as the basis. As they are all publics with large class sizes and all have to admit kids off the top ten rule, so some of the major flaws that those rankings possess are equalled out if not eliminated(such as class size and selectivity penalties). Texas State isn’t even ranked, UH is, and continues to climb. UT is almost 100 spots ahead of UTD, while A&M is about 70-80 spots ahead. Both UT and A&M’s engineering departments, in atleast grad school, are about 70 spots ahead. UT and A&M are better schools then UTD, UH is better than Texas state. While various programs vary, overall perception and rankings match this. Also the UCB and UCLA being much greater is perception as well, as UCSD and UCSB are within 30-40 spots, and have several programs that can almost go toe to toe. That’s why I call them closer than Texas schools, as 30-40 gap is better than 70-90.
Haha you actually respect US News rankings??? Their ranking criteria is trash. Also U Houston is on the verge of even being ranked so I don’t think they are given all that much respect by US News. M
Look, us news isn’t perfect, but they take into account a lot of info. So while I would find it hard to say Harvard is better than Yale based off of US news ranking one ahead of the other, a difference of 70-80 spots is pretty big. Again, a lot of their flaws consist of class size and selectivity meaning a better school, and since all these texas publics are equal on those fronts, it’s a fair way to assess which schools are better(albeit not perfect), and an obviously better way than whatever metric you’re using. UH is ranked? Do you mean on the verge of being unranked?
I meant it’s in the 180s or something’s so it’s at the bottom of ranked schools. Not saying it’s a bad school but it’s nothing impressive. I just don’t feel that any of the ranking factors are of muh importance. It’s also not true that Texas schools are equally selective. I mean retention rates are important but I think that is measuring inputs mainly especially at that big of a school. Nothing else really seems a measure of academic quality.
They have peer assessments and other factors that help form the rankings, and while they aren’t precise enough for someone to say X school is better than Y school because it’s one spot ahead, I believe that large gaps demonstrate that a school academically is better than another. Yes, I agree about the acceptance rates not being equal, but they are on equal ground though, all of them are large publics, and have to follow the top ten rule. So while selectivity is a flawed factor when comparing, let’s say UT to UNC, it’s not when you compare UT to UTD, as they have equal auto admit regulations, thus selectivity can be used as a sign of a better college.
I understand the factors and I feel the peer asesment is one of the most flawed parts. They don’t have equal auto admit regulations. UT has the seven rule vs ten everywhere else in Texas. I agree it’s a bit different in Texas than other states because of the auto but not that different. UNC still has to take a vat majority of their students from their own state. They are just able to be more flexible with their admissions for in state students.
Yeah, but UT, in turn, by being the only university that can have that exception, pretty much signifies that it’s the target school for most of texas’s top students. UNC can choose to admit who they want instate, UT has to accept a lot of people that normal top universities won’t usually accept, and CAP people that are more than qualified.
I agree that UT is the flagships school of Texas. I don’t like the auto admit policy in Texas at all so I won’t argue too much there. I just don’t know how much better the undegrad experience will be between UT and other state schools especially when you factor in honors programs.