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<p>This is an irrelevant question in many respects. </p>
<p>How many MBA programs in the world are really worth attending? That is the real question. Haas is certainly one of them if that answers your question. But having said that, there are nearly a dozen other schools which are “better” – that doesn’t mean Haas isn’t a great b-school, simply that its not an “elite” one.</p>
<p>^ what is your definition of elite business school? Just Harvard, Stanford and Wharton? - those are probably the truly elite…I agree.</p>
<p>Come on. Stop wasting time, guys…</p>
<p>Who’d be Haas in the Matrix?</p>
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<p>The difference between an MBA vs. the other two major professional graduate degrees (i.e. M.D. and J.D.) is simply that you don’t NEED an MBA to go into business – plenty of successful business people don’t have one. Conversely, if you want to practice medicine, you’ll need to go to med school, if you want to practice law. you’ll need a law degree – you have no choice. </p>
<p>Hence, if getting an MBA is not compulsory, it follows that it’s really only worth doing so if you’re going to go to a prominent one (for reputation purposes, recruiting, the program itself, networking, alumni, etc.) – after all, it’s not CHEAP and its a serious investment of time and capital – not to mention the opportunity costs lost attending a typical 2-year program.</p>
<p>Now there are some special exceptions (i.e. for someone seeking a radical career change or someone who is not happy with their undergrad record, etc. – where the actual getting of the degree itself is more important than the institution in question) – but those are the exceptions rather than the rule.</p>
<p>^^^ it’s “more acceptable” because YOU wrote it? LOL…</p>
<p>if my ranking was “from my heart” where was yours from? your arse?</p>
<p>Let’s just respect the_prestige’s personal opinion. (Again, his personal opinion, nothing less, nothing more.) I think he’s entitled to one however it may sound terribly awful and disgusting to most of you. At least, his personal ranking came straight out from his heart. </p>
<p>As for the ranking, here’s the more acceptable one:</p>
<p>Harvard
Wharton / Stanford
Kellogg
Chicago
MIT-Sloan / Berkeley-Haas / Columbia / Dartmouth-Tuck
Michigan-Ross
NYU-Stern / Virginia-Darden / Duke-Fuqua / Yale-SOM
Cornell-Johnson / UCLA-Anderson</p>
<p>I don’t expect this ranking to change anytime soon. But if there will be any in the near future, that would most likely be Berkeley-Haas ascendance to equal or outrank Chicago when the labour of its entre-science-eng’g partnership will bear fruits soon. ( [FT.com</a> / Business education - Students test clean energy by degrees](<a href=“Students test clean energy by degrees”>Students test clean energy by degrees) ) Meantime, Yale has already reached its peak. It’s graduate business school will just be another flap just like what happened to its science and engineering development program that was a huge flap.</p>
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<p>Ladies and gentlemen, notice how awful the lingua of this self-proclaimed MBA grad who still fancies a Yale MBA. See and judge for yourself if he deserves the initials, MBA, after his name.</p>
<p>Ladies and gentlemen, </p>
<p>About 10 years or so ago, Yale made this public pronouncement: [At</a> Yale, a $500 Million Plan Reflects a New Age of Science - The New York Times](<a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2000/01/19/nyregion/at-yale-a-500-million-plan-reflects-a-new-age-of-science.html]At”>http://www.nytimes.com/2000/01/19/nyregion/at-yale-a-500-million-plan-reflects-a-new-age-of-science.html) to boost two of its weakest programmes. 10 years have passed and Yale has already produced 2 presidents and several prominent politicians, yet those two weak departments are still what they were 10 years or so ago. </p>
<p>Now, what guarantee does Yale have to all the best MBA aspirants that it will break into the top 3 in the near future when in previous records suggest it has failed to have done it, not just on one program, but on two programs, and with over half a billion dollar budget, probably the biggest single budget ever have invested on just two departments in the academic world?</p>
<p>RML, you are a broken record.</p>
<p>No one said that Yale SOM will break into the top 3 in the near future. You are a flat out liar.</p>
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<p>Now, I’m beginning to suspect our credential.</p>
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<p>English, please.</p>
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<p>Do you really have an MBA from a prestigious business school?</p>
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<p>Or, it could also be:</p>
<p>Harvard
Wharton / Stanford
Kellogg
Chicago
MIT-Sloan / Berkeley-Haas / Columbia
Michigan-Ross / Dartmouth-Tuck
NYU-Stern / Virginia-Darden / Duke-Fuqua / Yale-SOM
Cornell-Johnson / UCLA-Anderson</p>
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<p>Harvard
Wharton / Stanford
Kellogg
Chicago / MIT-Sloan / Columbia
Berkeley-Haas / Dartmouth-Tuck
Michigan-Ross
NYU-Stern / Virginia-Darden / Duke-Fuqua / Yale-SOM
Cornell-Johnson / UCLA-Anderson</p>
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Whatever it is, the top 10 remains: </p>
<p>Harvard
Wharton / Stanford
Kellogg
Chicago
MIT-Sloan / Columbia / Berkeley-Haas
Dartmouth-Tuck / Michigan-Ross
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<p>^^ US News would beg to differ. It’s a more credible authority than you.</p>
<p>RML, you say that Haas it a Top 10 b-school. </p>
<p>Let’s break it down:</p>
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<li>Harvard / Wharton / Stanford = “The MBA Trinity”</li>
<li>MIT / Columbia / Chicago / Kellogg = Rest of the “M7”</li>
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<p>That leaves 3 spots for a “Top 10” position.</p>
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<li>Tuck definitely deserves a spot, no question.</li>
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<p>So that leaves 2 spots amongst the following:</p>
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<li>NYU</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Ross</li>
<li>Haas</li>
<li>Virginia</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Duke</li>
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<p>NYU probably deserves the 9th spot, and Yale should get the 10th. That means that Haas should be ranked anywhere between 11 to 15.</p>
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<p>Well, actually from 11-12 at worst. After all, you yourself agreed that Haas was better than Virginia, UCLA, or Cornell. </p>
<p>Furthermore, I’m not sure I can agree that Haas is worse than Yale. I can agree that perhaps in the future, it may be so. But right now? I think Haas still has the edge. USNews seems to agree - the same USNews that validated your assertion that Yale would be a top 10 school also ranks Haas higher than Yale. </p>
<p>As far as NYU goes, I would say that that school rises and falls with NYC, and if NYC is sundered for awhile - as may very well happen with the eclipse of Ibanking as we know it - then NYU will be brought low with it. I would then have to place my bets on Haas which, although obviously not as well positioned within the realm of technological innovation as is Stanford or MIT, is better positioned than NYU is.</p>
<p>I would have said a decade or so ago that UVA (Darden) was ~ #10 and now it seems like it’s viewed more ~ #15. What has caused its decline?</p>
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<p>OK, but the point remains, it’s not really a bonafide “Top 10” b-school. Still pretty darn good, but falls short of “elite” status nonetheless.</p>
<p>As for Darden, I do remember that it was considered a pretty solid b-school when I was applying (still short of Top 10 status) but I think its more of a function of other programs – Tuck, Yale, Duke, Haas and even Anderson rising vs. UVA.</p>
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Haas was ranked in the Top 10 this year by USNWR…:)</p>
<p>How many years does it have to rank in the Top 10 to become “bonafide”?
[Rankings</a> - Best Business Schools - Graduate Schools - Education - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/rankings]Rankings”>http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/rankings)</p>
<p>Yeah, that MBA ranking has Columbia ranked no. 9 behind Haas (if anything Haas and Columbia should swap).</p>