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<p>why would self-reported data be biased for or against any one particular school? In theory, the %-age should be roughly the same across the board.</p>
<p>Now, I’m not saying that it’s not a flawed ranking, but the fact that it may or may not rely on self-reported data shouldn’t benefit or handicap any one particular school.</p>
<p>The data are highly suspicious. The whole ranking league table is flawed. Why waste time on this? lol</p>
<p>Harvard > Columbia</p>
<p>Berkeley-Haas > Yale SOM</p>
<p>Period!</p>
<p>In the next 50 years I predict:</p>
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<li>H-HBS</li>
<li>Y-SOM</li>
<li>S-GSB</li>
</ol>
<p>below that is unpredictable because there’s too many factors. </p>
<p>Berkeley has nowhere to go. It has just about maxed out its potential unless there are HUGE changes of events (e.g. Berkeley breaking off from the public CAL system and becoming private, amassing a huge endowment through some billionaire donations and great investments, and the west coast becoming a huge business hub for china, the new world power, and completely eclipsing the importance of nyc)</p>
<p>Assuming things stay the same (which is the best assumption we can make even though it’s still ****ty), then it’ll be HYS for us (eventually).</p>
<p>Kellogg/Columbia for 4th, they’re underrated.</p>
<p>foxdie!</p>
<p>No one knows what will happen 50 years from now. And, even basing on history of Yale, it does not have a solid accomplishment when it comes to developing a program to become one of the very best in the world. Like I said, with the exception of its undergrad and law school, it does not have a number 1/2 program. </p>
<p>On the other hand, when Berkeley’s entre and start ups programs will mature, it will eat Yale’s reputation alive in the world of business.</p>
<p>Yale is one of the world’s great institutes of higher learning, berkely is no doubt a good school, bit won’t be in the same league as Yale anytime soon.</p>
<p>Berkeley is one of the world’s great institutes of higher learning, Yale is no doubt a good school, bit won’t be in the same league as Berkeley anytime soon.</p>
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<p>So you are saying once again that Yale is inferior to Cal as an institution of higher learning? What world are you living in?</p>
<p>^ The engineering world… ;)</p>
<p>the_prestige, in Italy, England, Singapore, Malaysia, the Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia, Taiwan and in many countries that I have been to around the world, Berkeley is as big a name as Yale. For science, tech, engineering and business/entre, Berkeley is a bigger name than Yale is. Deal with that.</p>
<p>I’ve been to every country you have listed multiple times. I’ve also traveled the world, have worked and lived on 3 continents (Americas, Europe and Asia). So I am very well versed in international views, thank you very much.</p>
<p>And you are dead wrong. Yale > Cal pretty much every where outside of the Bay Area and your house.</p>
<p>the_prestige, you’re amazing!!! You know more about my country, people, culture, education, etc, etc, than I do. </p>
<p>Can you explain to me very briefly the education system of Italy, the UK, the Philippines and Singapore and Malaysia? I’d like to know it from you since you’re an alleged expert in those countries.</p>
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<p>In Singapore, Malaysia and Taiwan this is clearly untrue. Deal with that.</p>
<p>RML, first of all who said I was an “expert” in those educational systems? When did we even discuss educational systems of other countries? </p>
<p>You are a liar and a very bad one at that.</p>
<p>Second, I’ll leave it up to posters like 1234d, who hails from Singapore. He also thinks you are full of crap.</p>
<p>Which school is “best” really depends on the metric used to rate the schools. It comes down to what you mean to do and what you need to get there. It’s a mistake, for example, to assume that the best Management School is also the best Accounting School, is also the best Finance School, is also the best Entrepreneurship School, et cetera. Also, you need to consider immediate benefits versus long-term value. And finally, never forget the influence of regional bias; here in Texas a UT grad will get more offers and faster promotion than a lot of other schools (except companies run by Aggies), even Harvard Business School. Prestige is dependent on the guy hiring you being impressed; more depends on you than on the school in that regard.</p>
<p>After what George W Bush has done to Harvard and what Warren Buffet has done for Columbia, I think the order of the ranking order may well change in the future.</p>
<p>BY the way, I had some fun and looked up the education of the top 267 CEOs according to Barron’s and Forbes. Of those, 11 never went to college, another 3 dropped out of college before earning a degree, 1 earned an Associate’s Degree only, 106 earned a Bachelor’s degree but no Master’s, leaving 10 PhD’s, 24 JD’s, 5 Masters in Engineering and 104 MBAs. Of the 49 named schools where an MBA was earned by a top CEO, Harvard was the heaviest going away, with 26 top CEOs with a Harvard MBA. Stanford was second with 7, Columbia third with 6, Indiana had 4, and fifth place was a tie between NYU, Northwestern, Penn, UCLA, and Virginia. </p>
<p>[Top</a> Paid CEOs - Forbes.com](<a href=“http://www.forbes.com/2008/04/30/ceo-pay-compensation-lead-bestbosses08-cx-sd_0430ceo_intro.html]Top”>Top Paid CEOs)</p>
<p>[The</a> World’s Best CEOs - Barrons.com](<a href=“http://online.barrons.com/public/article/SB117469289796447454-RYz8qWE3C85u1j31K_IL4UZx7R8_20070423.html]The”>http://online.barrons.com/public/article/SB117469289796447454-RYz8qWE3C85u1j31K_IL4UZx7R8_20070423.html)</p>
<p>the prestige, when did I say you’re an expert of those countries’ educational system? I only asked if you could explain to me the educational system of those countries.</p>
<p>1234d, how is Yale a big name in those countries for science, tech, engineering and business/entrepreneurship?</p>
<p>RML, how is Berkeley “as big a name as Yale” in these places then?</p>