The Choate Experience

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The international standard is a 50M Olympic sized pool (used in international competition and National-level competition in US as well as mostly summer swimming for USASwimming (age 9-18).
25M pools are not the norm in the US, where the standard is 25-yards (for NCAA and USASwimming). Getting times in 25M is confusing because they are slower than 25Y and difficult to “convert” (a formula is applied, but it is not that accurate b/c it is swimmer, stroke, and speed dependent).

Choate has a 25-meter pool. They are the best for training. +10%. Also great if you race internationally, but really nobody cares about short course meters or yards anywhere but in the USA. Real racing happens in a 50m pool.

The kid who never heard back from any Choate swimming coach 2 years in a row happily chose Choate for all the right reasons and happily stayed away from the pool every year and never swam for that team at all. Happily plays a couple of sports where they give you weapons at a level of mild competence and keeps in shape to hit the short- and long-course seasons at home for all the right reasons. I admire that sort of arbitrary obduracy.

I see - interesting!

If a swimmer wants to compete in college then he or she really needs 25 yard times. Even 50 meter LCM times might not play well with coaches. I know of a story where a swimmer had phenomenal breakout swims in the summer but could not be invited to an official visit because of the lack of SCY times.

yeah, but those sc yards times are garbage for everything else in swimming. american high schools and colleges and everyone else really messed up when they failed to adopt the sc metres standard when they had the chance.

the 50m x 25yd is a hilariously american mongrel. makes for nice wide lanes if you set it up for 8 long course.

i wonder how each and every one of those foreign recruits at all the big ncaa swimming schools get sc yard times if lc metres times are no good…

This is somewhat regional. In states where LCM pools are plentiful (or clubs that own them), most of those athletes compete primarily in LCM. I agree about the international swimmers. And conversions are easy to make (just not always accurate).

25Y (Or M) pools have become so short for today’s competitors! They get so much distance on the underwaters, take a few strokes, and turn again. That wasn’t the case way back when the pools were built. But many colleges in US only have yard pools, so NCAA has maintained the 25Y format.

It is what it is right? Colleges have SCY pools and coaches look for those times. They obviously know they’ll always need to covert the times of a pure international swimmer. Not an authority by any means, but I think College Swimming does not include LCM times when computing power index.

Back to the subject…Choate, in fact, has a 25 meter pool.

Right - it is what it is. But the college recruiting issue seems like a lame excuse…there had to be another reason why that swimmer was not recruited. Some of the best swimmers mostly swim LCM.

25M pools are great for training due to the +10% per length…and they will have other meets, including championships, most likely in 25Y pools, and summer swimming in LCM if they swim summer USASwimming.

Just asked AppleKid: definitely prefers SCY pool for training for SCY competition due to working to specific goal times and how stroke counts differ and set times (intervals) also ending up being different in a SCM pool.

That said, the length of the pools, and other characteristics of the aquatic facilities, had no bearing when we looked at schools. Although I do recall being initially puzzled when looking at some of the meet results to see how AppleKid stacked up in comparison—“wow, the kids on that team must’ve had a really tough week of practice cuz their times were really slow” :smiley:

MODERATOR’S NOTE:
As noted earlier, Choate has a 25M pool. And as @MAandMEmom said: It is what it is. That’s probably the only parts that are relevant to the OP. I don’t think the OP cares about SCY/SCM/LCM. While fascinating, it is extremely off-topic. Further conversations on that topic and its recruiting implications should be part of a new discussion.