<p>Here's a list of the 40 colleges Lauren Pope praises to the point of creepiness in Colleges That Change Lives. </p>
<p>As a recent transfer, and soon to be again, I've become truly afflicted with the notion of attending an alternative and embracing college. I want to make sure I don't miss out on any of these schools.</p>
<p>What are some schools you'd add to the list?</p>
<p>For me, Shimer College. Any others?</p>
<p>The thing to remember about Pope's criteria is that he'll yank OFF his list a college, no matter how good, if it becomes more selective than he likes. Reed and St. Olaf (and maybe a few other colleges on his list) are often in danger of leaving the list. </p>
<p>What do you like about Shimer?</p>
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<h2>Here's a list of the 40 colleges Lauren Pope praises to the point of creepiness in Colleges That Change Lives. </h2>
<p>You said "Here's a list", Where's the link for this ?</p>
<p>Yeah, where's the link?</p>
<p>I am familiar with the work, so here's the link for all to peruse:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ctcl.com/%5B/url%5D">http://www.ctcl.com/</a></p>
<p>That said, I disagree with his methodology. </p>
<p>And to answer the question, every college has changed someone's life.</p>
<p>(On a side note, I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds Pope creepy.)</p>
<p>Pope is just supplying us w/ list of schools that don't make very many senior's radar. It's always HYPS..., then Michigan as a back up. I like that he brings the likes of St John's, Knox, some Ohio schools, and Allegheny to our attention.</p>
<p>I never thought he had a formal "methodology," rather these were schools he likes and feels many students who are not valed/salut can go to and get great educations.</p>
<p>I am not sure if this list is dependable.</p>
<p>When a school like Antioch College from Yellowsprings, Ohio is in the book and other excellent LAC's are not, it makes one wonder about the point of view of the author, as well as the fact checkers. Antioch College is suspending operations as of July 1, 2008, and this announcement was made on June, 12, 2007.</p>
<p>Maybe the author is a fan of the Twilight Zone ( as I am ), since Rod Serling is a graduate of Antioch.... :)</p>
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<h2>rather these were schools he likes and feels many students who are not valed/salut can go to and get great educations.</h2>
<p>Well, Wheaton College in Illinois is included in the list and I can tell you that 1 in 7 of their students are either high school valedictorians and salutatorians. The SAT entrance requirement is also quite high.</p>
<p>Here are some colleges Pope might not have listed :</p>
<p>I see no problem with yanking off schools that become incredibly selective. The point of Pope's book is to assist serious students who know that they don't qualify for a school whose acceptance rate is ridiculously low. I know very few all-star students who would look to Loren Pope for advise instead of just taking a look at the US News rankings. Publications such as US News and the like tend to overlook smaller schools with lower name ID and to include well-known, highly selective schools in Pope's book would elleminate one of the only resources for your typical "B or C student" in high school.</p>
<p>I believe the alumnae have saved Antioch, and it's not closing.</p>
<p>Why are "American values" conservative values. The founding fathers were pretty darn radical.</p>
<p>"I believe the alumnae have saved Antioch, and it's not closing."</p>
<p>"...the Antioch University Board of Trustees has approved a resolution instructing the Chancellor to explore the possibility of establishing the College as a free-standing, independent liberal arts institution as of July 1, 2008."</p>
<p>"If the University and the new corporation are able to reach an agreement, upon completion of the transfer, the College would be governed by a new Board of Trustees..."</p>
<p>"There are a host of issues to be resolved before any agreement can be reached, and a decision on the transfer is expected no later than February 24, 2008."</p>
<p>Yea, with good reason. I wouldn't go to any of those places if they offered me a full ride (maybe UChicago, but I probably wouldn't be happy there).</p>
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<h2>Why are "American values" conservative values. The founding fathers were pretty darn radical.</h2>
<p>It depends really on what you want to "conserve".</p>
<p>If you look at the college on the Newsmax list, a lot of them have core curriculums that try to study the seminal ideas that constituted the founding of the USA ( including discussing the reasons why it was necessary to revolt instead of pay taxes). It is those ideas that these schools attempt to "conserve".</p>
<p>Well those ideas did not come from "conserving" but by going with enlightenment ideas, which were new at the time. (Locke in particular.)</p>
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I never thought he had a formal "methodology," rather these were schools he likes and feels many students who are not valed/salut can go to and get great educations.
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When I say that I don't like his methodology, I'm saying that I don't like the statement he's making. All the schools he features are very similar in the sense that they're offbeat LACs - schools that probably wouldn't be the right kind of fit for the majority of American teenagers. I just think his book is too narrowly focused to a very specific type of school</p>
<p>...And maybe it's just me, but some parts of the site seem reminiscint of a cult...</p>
<p>I agree with World Changer on that note. Small liberal arts schools are not the right fit for a lot of us and his lsit should expand to include some bigger schools. Still, I think his book is a great resource for the less than stellar, yet serious, high school student. A Colleges That Change Lives that exclusively includes colleges with a 5,000-10,000+ enrollment is definitely in order.</p>