<p>“Bait and Switch, that thread doesn’t prove or say anything.”</p>
<p>Did you even read the thread? Prospective students of high-caliber schools asked about retaking the SAT, and admitted students of similarly high-caliber schools advised they NOT retake the SAT. What does it “prove”? That you don’t need a crazy high SAT to get into a crazy competitive school. What does it “say”? That you are perhaps better off expending your efforts on time-consuming endeavors that are NOT a high school prep test.</p>
<p>Before calling me out on a public forum, please be sure to know what you’re talking about. Firstly, let’s talk statistics, your sample size can’t justify any sort of correlation. Great evidence, right? iansown mentioned about how he applied to top 10-20 schools was denied, retook the SAT’s, and got accepted. You call this anecdotal but so is Javous’s claim, the only other person who talks about schools he was accepted/declined after not retaking the SAT’s. The other people who supports your argument are jwlstn and iuvo10 but offer no real evidence. So I can’t help but ask did YOU read the thread?</p>
<p>I stand by what I said, retake the SAT’s if you did poorly and want to apply to a Tier 1-3 school. It will only make your application look stronger and shows that you’re willing to put forth the commitment to do whatever it takes to get into your school choice.</p>
<p>I’ll be retaking the SAT. I think it only makes sense to provide schools with another standard by which to compare me to their more traditional students.</p>
<p>i was mediocre on my SATs… i was told it wouldn’t matter to retake them because they only demonstrate your assessment for about 6 months out of highschool. </p>
<p>seeing as i was out for 2 years, they didnt really mean anything.</p>
<p>but thats just me though… if youd feel more confident, do it then…</p>
<p>I think if I recall, you made a good score on the ACT. A lot of students made lower scores- and think of it this way, even in the ridiculous circumstance that it actually happens, what if someone who made a mediocre ACT score in high school, takes it in college and makes a 33 +? I think- thats the point a lot of people who want to retake standardized tests are thinking. Quite honestly, I’d love not to take it again, I really don’t want to take a three hour test with high school kids again- but I just think it’ll serve me better if I do.</p>
<p>Congratulations on UVA, Duke and Dartmouth. Did you notice something I said in my posts, it would increase your chances at a Tier 1-3 school because the it is so competitive in those brackets that if two candidates have similiar stats and writing talents, why not pick the one with a higher SAT? Many students applied straight out of HS with great SAT scores and wanted a second shot with a transfer.</p>
<p>Also, before you pull your I was wait listed at stanford with an average SAT score, maybe you would have gotten in if you retook it.</p>
<p>i have never taken the SAT’s or ACT’s, i just got transfer accepted to both USC and CU-Boulder(my backup) so yea… </p>
<p>ofc, if you can improve your score and get awesome scores, then why not ? itll just be an extra thing though i dont think theyll punish you for not taking them :)</p>
<p>I haven’t posted on here in a LONG time but I happened to come by and figured I’d add to this thread for those of you that are contemplating a CC -> uni transfer or have completed one.</p>
<p>I went to a CC for two years, pulled off a 3.88 GPA, took the SAT/ACT (2220/34) and transferred to Wesleyan University. Two years later, I finished Wesleyan with a 3.41 (not too great, but not bad considering the lack of effort on my part) and am heading to NYU law school. I was also up for a full-tuition scholarship at NYU based on my background and merit, and a lot of the people I met at the interview were from CCs as well. It’s not impossible by any means, and if you want it you’ve got a bright future ahead of you. Good luck to all.</p>
<p>“i was mediocre on my SATs… i was told it wouldn’t matter to retake them because they only demonstrate your assessment for about 6 months out of highschool.”</p>
<p>^ bing<em>bing</em>bing!</p>
<p>"Before calling me out on a public forum, please be sure to know what you’re talking about. "</p>
<p>Oh I would argue that I absolutely do- I just got into several sharp schools with super average SAT scores. Given that I find myself in the 0.001% of community college students who have been awarded the opportunity to attend a school that is obnoxiously selective, did it ever occur to you that maybe I know just a little bit about how this system is operating? </p>
<p>But you apparently want to play the statistical relevance game. So I must ask: who cares? No statistical outcome, regardless of the “sample size”, will yield information that will fly in the face of what admissions directors have PERSONALLY told me about not retaking the SAT. But let’s play it your way, just for posterity: the population of community college transfers with a high SAT score who matriculate to Ivy-caliber schools after failing to do so with a low score is so RIDICULOUSLY small, any conclusions you might draw from that data would be statistically irrelevant. You simply wouldn’t have enough measurable information to prove a significant pattern. And even if you tried to establish some sort of suggestive correlation, the confounding variables would kill your argument faster than someone could sneeze. So go ahead and keep demanding comically preposterous statistics that aren’t even available, while I sit here providing obvious examples that support my point. *Note: Being argumentative simply for the sake of doing so is a huge waste of time. </p>
<p>“Also, before you pull your I was wait listed at stanford with an average SAT score, maybe you would have gotten in if you retook it.”</p>
<p>Maybe I would have- if the assistant director hadn’t told me not to bother. And I would have gotten in (same source, later date) if they hadn’t happened to accidentally over-enroll 200 freshman the week before.</p>
<p>I graduated HS with a 3.4 GPA had 4 AP classes. (only passed 2). Also was in 2 clubs, not including ROTC that I had 3 leadership positions in, also one of those leadership positions I founded myself. 24 ACT.</p>
<p>I went to CC only because of how wonderfully exciting my life is. Turns out I had this ultra rare tumor that was steadily growing since I was a baby and it decided to make it’s presence know 2 months before HS graduation. What a nice little pre-graduation gift! Anywho, I was in the hospital for surgery/recover for 4 months and I didn’t even get to walk for graduation. Lucky enough, my teachers either liked me or pitied me enough that they excused the last 2 months of school I missed and let me graduate. lol. So CC was really a last resort and even that almost didn’t happen as I got out of the hospital only 3/4 weeks before school started and 1 week before enrollment deadline. </p>
<p>I really don’t like CC because I see it as a ‘transition college’ like pretend or something. I know it’s stupid to think like that bc at least I’m going to college but idk, I just don’t like the fact that all my friends for the most part are in big schools and I got left behind so to speak. </p>
<p>I’m trying to transfer to FSU now, but I only have 3.17 GPA and no ECs. I’ll be graduating in Dec. 18th and my CC has this ‘deal’ with FSU where I’ll be a high priority applicant as long as I have my AA which I will. But I’m just nervous since I’m by no means a spectacular student. Reading everyone else’s credentials makes me wish I had a time machine so I could go back and do more APs and EC. But what’s done is done. I’m still awaiting a decision for 2010 Spring transfer and I seriously don’t know what I’ll do if i don’t get accepted. Oh wait, I do know what I’d do, I’ll cry a thousand tears most likely. lol.</p>
<p>I went to CC because I went to college early. I was fourteen when I started at the community college.</p>
<p>But it’s not too much of a rosy path…sure, it was early college but it also meant that if I didn’t get into a good school as a transfer, I’d be a total fail story.</p>
<p>Well, luckily I got into UCSD, UCLA, UC Berkeley, Boston College, etc. as a transfer. I got into Duke (transfer acceptance rate was 7%…and I don’t know anyone else from a CC here) as a junior. I turn 18 next week.</p>
<p>I didn’t do so well in HS…Now I’m at my 4th semester in a CC and my overall GPA is a 3.3. I withdrew a course from 2nd semester, and another course (CHem) this semester. I have a few c’s and no failing or D’s, and also no EC’s. I have social anxiety, which I know isn’t a good excuse, but I just fear people. I decided on a physc major just recently. I was wondering how bad is it to stay 1-2 more semester at a community college to raise my GPA? How will it be If I take some courses in an online academy? You can actually take assosiates, or just courses. When I’m transfering to a 4yr. Univ. will it be a plus or does it not matter? Any advice or suggestions? Thanks.</p>
<p>^^ IReddd, so long as you still have prereqs to complete I don’t see any harm in staying an extra 2 semesters to raise your GPA. I would advise against taking online courses (that aren’t offered by your CC) because they most likely will not be factored into your overall GPA and thus won’t contribute in raising it.</p>
<p>I attended community college because I knew I couldn’t afford to attend a 4-year school for all 4 years. I didn’t have a chance at an academic scholarship, and I had a state scholarship but I still would have had to take out some loans. I’ve never wanted to do that, until this year when I found an out-of-state school that I really like and am willing to risk being a little in debt to go to. But I still have set limits on what I’m going to take out as far as loans goes.</p>
<p>So I went to a community college, got involved in their radio/tv program (even though no TV classes have been offered for the past few years, lol!), got involved in student radio, and I’ve really loved it all! I don’t care for the people sometimes, since I lot of them come from small, conservative, small towns, but it’s actually a pretty nice school to be a community college. The campus is really nice too. </p>
<p>I chose to work those two years, which pretty much ruined my college experience, lol! And in the end I really don’t know how I feel about the whole experience. I did like my school, and I’m definitely not someone who is brave enough to say “30 or 60 thousand in loans? That’s nothing!”. I definitely did a good thing by saving money. But in the end I don’t think I even have a transfer scholarship </p>
<p>But I made some great friends, had some great professors (some…), had some great experiences, built a kinda-sorta-fairly impressive resume. I mean, at least I have work and volunteer experience, and I got to have some experience related to my major right out of freshman year. That was awesome! I grew out of my shell a little through student radio and really just trying to grow a little bit more socially in college. I am still the same quiet person I was in high school, but I know I have a different and unique perspective of the “real world” and my life thanks to the past two years.</p>
<p>Does it matter about strength of school when applying for transfer? I am at good school now but it is very expensive and I am doing poorly academically. Should I go to CC to raise my gpa? Does a 3.0 at top 5o school look the same as a 3.0 at a cc?</p>
so yea… </p>
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