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irregardless (fixing your typo) is not a word. It is simply “regardless”.</p>
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I don’t think those words clearly indicate that it is contrary, and I think your inferences are a bit overreaching. It could just as easily mean that if they don’t clearly think you are Cornell material at the ED round, when they know you really want Cornell, then waiting for RD is useless. It doesn’t mean RD is more competitive, it just means that under an absolute standard regardless of timing, you don’t cut it.</p>
<p>I don’t know about Cornell, but I do know that at a couple other top 25 schools the ED applicants have higher average stats than the RD applicants.</p>
<p>She said more, I just can’t recall it all in order to quote it, but the distinct impression I was left with was per my post. OP’s “disclaimer” in post #1 can apply to me as well, but my conclusions based on the totality of the info session were not IMO overreaching.</p>
<p>OK, obviously I can only base my comments on what you posted. I cannot know what else was said.</p>
<p>I disagree with the idea that ED applicants are more competitive. I’m guessing many kids who apply ED are doing it because they think they’ll have a better chance with their lower stats. So maybe a larger % than we originally thought are “average” applicants.</p>
<p>No college will ever fill up more than 50% of their class early. </p>
<p>I know for a fact that is wrong; UPenn admissions claim that 75% of their class comes from ED applicants exclusively. My school stats speak strongly against your myth “de-claimer” - 12/24 kids have been accepted ED (about 50%), while fewer than 20% have been accepted RD out of over 100 kids. Furthermore, the average GPA and SAT scores applied for ED students is significantly lower, and the average acceptance gap between ED and RD is even greater. For ED, the weighted average is a 4.0, while the RD average is a 4.4. RD is undoubtedly more successive, and I’ve sat in an admissions session while I was at summer college; he confirmed that ED applicants definitely have priority.</p>
<p>And also, not taking the way the 7 schools functioning differently into account, about 1/3 of ED cornell applicants get accepted, 1/3 get deferred, and 1/3 outright rejected.</p>
<p>Out of those deferrals, 10% get accepted. Maybe not CAS, but at least a good number of the other schools use deferrals furiously to make up for it.</p>
<p>Does anyone have a link for the ED rates per college for 2010 or previous years? I can find the overall ED rate, but nothing for each college.</p>
<p>RD is undoubtedly more *selective</p>
<p>Yale accepts 50% early. But apparently admission through Yale’s Early Action program is even more competitive than it is through RD. I guess ED is a different story?</p>
<p>Yale SCEA is not the same as Cornell ED. The thing about Yale is that it is one of the “holy trinity” and acceptance is not binding. Many of the top students (and many who are not top students) apply to Yale. The same cannot be said for Cornell. Though there are plenty of highly qualified applicants, I suspect that many students who would get into HYPSM would not apply to Cornell ED.</p>
<p>To be honest, **anyone<a href=“even%20those%20without%20a” title=“passion for Cornell”>/b</a> can apply Cornell ED, thus appearing to be placing Cornell as their #1 choice. Which, despite what the admissions officers say, does appear to them as “passion.”</p>
<p>So yes, ED does improve your chances of getting into Cornell. Although I dislike people who ED just for a higher chance to get into an Ivy League school, and not because it’s their #1 choice, statistics do prove that ED gives you an edge. A higher percentage of applicants are accepted, and the average GPA/SAT/whatever’s of these accepted students are lower than those of the regular decision round.</p>
<p>Applying ED does help you; stop trying to spread misinformation.</p>
<p>Consider this: Cornell’s yield rate is around 40%; why is this? It’s because Cornell gets into cross-admit battles with schools like Harvard, Yale, and Princeton. When you compete in the Early Decision pool, you eliminate a lot of qualified candidates who would rather take a shot at HYPSM. Furthermore, on average, RD admitted students tend to be <em>MORE</em> qualified than ED students and have higher cumulative SAT scores.
In the Early Decision pool, you have approximately 3-4000 students applying for 1000 seats. In the RD pool, you have 30+ thousand students applying for 2150 spots. Even if there are some shining stars who show amazing fit for Cornell in the ED pool, you have to take into account that there are even more academic superstars who are intel semifinalists, 2400 scorers, and 4.0 students in the RD people. </p>
<p>Remember that recruited athletes and legacies apply early because they are told by admissions officers that they will lose their boosts if they don’t apply early. Perhaps the only exception to the “ED is easier” rule is AEM. AEM is an incubator for some of the athletes who would academically suffer in any of the other schools; AEM is known for being very competitive and difficult to get in, but easy to graduate with good grades from. The reason why AEM is exempt from the “ED is easier” rule is because Cornell takes all of its D1 superstars and puts them in AEM so they can have a relatively easy (by comparison to engineering, for example) undergraduate education.</p>
<p>Why is this thread even existing? Cornell blatantly stated the following on its website:
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<p>^ hahaha good call</p>
<p>Would Cornell reject an ED applicant based solely on sat scores? If so, what score would warrant an immediate rejection?</p>
<p>^I really doubt Cornell would accept anyone that scores less than a 1000 CR/M. I would say the absolute minimum is probably around 1200, and those people are probably the athlete superstars.</p>
<p>Cornell can say whatever they want on their website, in the end it’s a yield game.</p>
<p>Will a student with a 1220 and exceptional extra curriculers for their intended major have a legitimate shot? (showing a strong desire to attend in the essay)</p>
<p>…typically an admitted student with an SAT score that far below the average would have to be a recruited athlete, a legacy, a child of an employee, or be from a family that owned a NYS farm that worked with the Cornell Co Operative Extension & wanted to apply to CALS. If you don’t fall into any of those categories your chances are very slim.</p>