<p>What are they, if any?</p>
<p>many many people would say Shirley Tilghman</p>
<p>i really really wouldn't agree with that, actually...unless you're primarily taking the opinions of 50 year old alums (no offense to these alums, of course, but they're not exactly in tune with what princeton is now) over the opinions of those currently affiliated with the university...
tell me, what are tilghman's flaws?</p>
<p>i said "many many people would say Shirley Tilghman"</p>
<p>I dont necessarily hold these views. However, I feel Tilghman spends too much time and effort with her colleagues and ignores the students and their opinions and views too much.</p>
<p>To me, it seems that Tilghman focuses much more on new buildings and funds than that which is the purpose of Princeton: the education.</p>
<p>Dont get me wrong. She is a very nice woman who has done a great deal for the University. But she also needs to focus more on the education offered here, and understand that flaws exist and need to be corrected with more than just infrastructure.</p>
<p>Wow. I am a 50-year old alumna, well, 51 actually. And I have never heard a word of complaint from my peers about Tilghman.</p>
<p>She was just voted one of the best leaders in America. I have seen her speak, seen her effect on the institution.</p>
<p>Princeton may have flaws, i.e. if you want to be in a city don't go there, but Shirley Tilghman isn't one of them.</p>
<p>no offense to you at all, alumother! i felt like the only complaints i've heard are from older alums loyal to their eating clubs, which was why i made that comment. i've actually never heard any criticism myself--i've only heard of some alums opposing her progressiveness. that was just me taking a guess, but i agree, tilghman is absolutely not a flaw.</p>
<p>quirkily - no offense taken:).</p>
<p>Just making the point that even in the small group you think might have issues I haven't seen it.</p>
<p>Hope you are having a good fall.</p>
<p>As a current senior at Pton, I am not a big fan of Tilghman. She allowed NWM to enact grade deflation which I think was a terrible idea (not just because I am a student!) and she did not publicize grade deflation well enough. Her ambivalent stand toward eating clubs disappoints me, and I have not seen her do much for the academic community. She is not as visible as other administrators (though she may be busy--but on the board of directors for Google? I would rather she take more time to eat lunch with students). What hurt me PERSONALLY the most, I think, is her claiming on the admissions video that she would invite everyone to her house for Thanksgiving--she only invites selected students (particularly minorities and legacies). That is what I heard from a few friends, at least!</p>
<p>ArcadeFire: This is from point:</p>
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[quote]
President Shirley M. Tilghman
extends an invitation to students
to join her for dinner at Lowrie House on</p>
<p>Tuesday, November 20 at 6:00 p.m.</p>
<p>RSVP November 13 to Susan Kovach at
<a href="mailto:skovach@princeton.edu">skovach@princeton.edu</a></p>
<p>Please note reservations will be handled on a first-come basis.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>Certainly, but in my experience, it doesn't happen that often. I had lunch with her once, and I do understand that it is hard to be everywhere. But again:</p>
<p>A) this wasn't my main point
B) I was writing why I wasn't a "big fan" of Tilghman. I suppose we all have expectations. Naturally, I hold Princeton to a high standard.</p>
<p>Good point though, other students should consider it.</p>
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<p>Quirkily, you and others might be surprised by something I just learned. An acquaintance gave me some statistics that he had just gotten from a recent Princeton Annual Giving meeting. It appears that those older alumni are very enthusiastic about the changes that have taken place at Princeton since they graduated. The older classes actually have higher percentage participation rates than the younger classes. I know that there are some older alumni who are resistant to change but theyre fewer in number than we might think. If these older alumni werent supportive of what Princeton is now, I doubt theyd be contributing to annual giving at higher percentages than the younger alumni. I dont think the stereotypes about the old WASPy alumni are entirely true.</p>
<p>There are still old WASPY alums, it's just that they are now very old:).</p>
<p>When I was there 30 years ago and made Annual Giving calls, some of the alums in their 50's would tell me they thought women should never have been admitted. But now those of us in our 50's, well, many of us are women. We aren't as diverse as the school is now, certainly, but we are a generation who lived through the '60s and so are not quite so crotchety and conservative as you might think:).</p>