The Home Improvement Thread

Lowe’s strikes out again! Finally tracked my appliance order online… It says “ready for pickup.” When we went to the store, the item was nowhere to be found, and the poor person helping us finally was able to figure out… A wrong item was shipped, so the appliance had to be re-shipped. Why the heck did they put the message on the order page?! Two weeks late and counting. HD got our orders in as promised. And here is the bad part - can’t cancel the order because the appliances purchased online are not returnable (same for HD)!

“can’t cancel the order because the appliances purchased online are not returnable”

But you haven’t received it yet so there is nothing to return.

I bet if you gave them heck about the screwups and the lateness, you could cancel it.

It has been shipped to the store - no cancellations after that point. I am tired of dealing with them at this point. What a ball of &$%#! It took an hour to return the broken toilet. I think I will just give Terry Love the Toto Guru a call and fetch one from his garage.

Finally painted my “Level 5” ceiling that I drywalled when Mr. installed the island hood. Looks good! BM matched the paint very well.

Navaho White! Remember that as go-to color when renting in California. Here, it’s Linen White. Must be a West Coast vs East Coast bias. Wonder if there’s a Midwest / Plains preference for a different off-white color.

@mathmom As for an off-white suggestion, how about a very, very light khaki, like BM mountain peak white or timid white; or a very, very light grey-green, like BM sebring white or mountain dew

Have been following this thread because plan to renovate galley kitchen. Will ask for advice & suggestions when further along.

Mountain Dew is very similar to the other bedroom which is BM 1555 Winter Orchard. I like it, but I think it definitely reads as grey. I’m liking the idea of a tan shade. Ideally it should look good with the BM Alabaster 876 trim which is in good shape.

@mathmom - Then you’d probably prefer colors in 2148 series, which includes Timid White, etc.

Ivory Tusk (2153 series) is another suggestion. In my home, it’s a nice transition wall color in a short dark hall from an open space in Timid White to rooms that have either yellow or blue toned walls.

Timid White was one of my semi-finalists.
Today, I’m watching the sun track across my Pearl swatches. The FB (Pointing) is pretty when the exact right light hits it. Otherwise, just another white-ish, with a light yellow cast. In my light, that is.

@lookingforward this is for a hallway, right? Do you spend that much time in this hallway that you will be unhappy if the color is not perfect under every possible lighting variation?

I don’t think the paint exists which will do what you want, which seems to be “change color to be what I want depending on the light”. :smiley:

I feel like you are overthinking it, but maybe that’s the male gene talking. I probably wouldn’t even be able to tell that all these colors you are trying are different. B-)

Part of our remodel for our kitchen involves 4 solar tubes. Anyone have experience with them?

@mathmom – a pale tan shade I used is Sail Cloth. It reads much lighter than it appears on the sample.

https://www.benjaminmoore.com/en-us/color-overview/find-your-color/color/PM-21/sail-cloth?color=PM-21

One of my boys chose Manchester Tan for his room and that reads MUCH darker.
https://www.benjaminmoore.com/en-us/color-overview/find-your-color/color/HC-81/manchester-tan?color=HC-81

All trim is Chantilly Lace, and it works well with that. (In case you want to compare that to your existing trim color. I have a lot of pale blues and greens in other areas of the house, and it works well with those also.)
https://www.benjaminmoore.com/en-us/color-overview/find-your-color/color/oc-65/chantilly-lace?color=OC-65

@lookingforward – I feel your pain…I cannot tell you how many samples of white I purchased and painted on full poster board-sized sheets that I moved around the house at different times of the day.

My current project is painting, patching, and cleaning after S finally got the ex-girlfriend out. I have never seen such filth and cat damage to carpet and walls, and I have rentals, so I’m already jaded. It’s easy to see progress, though :slight_smile:

I am a person who buys 35 shades of sample paint, obsesses over carpet samples, etc. No time for that now! He is not one for discerning minute difference in color.

Me: What color do you want on your bedroom walls?
Him: I dunno, something light gray. I like what you have up there now.

HA-it was leftover gray primer I used and it DID look good. Color matched it at the local hardware and it looks awesome. Meanwhile…I spent 8 weeks this spring picking colors for my house…

Carpet - I go to Lowe’s and ask what is the 72 hour guarantee install (although it turns out they are swamped and it’s 3 weeks and it says that somewhere in the fine print). I bring home 3 carpet samples that are close to what the cat ruined. He is late for work. He runs his fingers across them once and says, “That one. It’s softest.” Ta-da…done. Maybe I need to try this method :slight_smile:

@tx5athome I had a client many eons ago who put them in a dark upstairs hall. It was much cheaper than a skylight, but really it read as a nice light, not as sunshine which a regular skylight would do. I’ve never been a huge fan of skylights, but put one in in the breakfast area of our new kitchen and just love it. It’s operable (runs on solar so we got a $500 tax credit) and we often open it to let out the hot air and create some natural air circulation.

I like Manchester Tan, unfortunately my BM color swatch collection dates back to the 1990s and doesn’t have a lot of the newer colors. My lap top is completely unreliable as a way to compare colors.

@tx5athome, we put one in the back stairway(there are 2 stairways) in our vacation home and it brightens up the area. However, I don’t like the aesthetics of the bubble like dome on the roof. Can you put one larger one instead of 4?

@notrichenough I work in two positions that require quick decisions, no going back, but this is my home. It’s the foyer, 7 x 30, if you count up the stairs, and 9’ ceilings… And though it’s not an open concept design, there are large openings to the LR and DR (3 of them.) So yes, it’s a very visible space. And with light from all 4 directions.

More than that, long story, but I didn’t like the prior brown in that space and want to like what I replace it with. I don’t want to “go generic” or settle. Can I find the perfect color? It seems not. But I’ll get as close as I want, before putting down the brushes. I’m not nearly as concerned about the the 2nd floor hallway (dark, no outside light; I’ll just make it look lighter) or the bedrooms. Just this main visual snapshot guests and I will see, whenever we enter, every time we enter.

Glad I’m not the only one who buys lots of samples. I vaguely set a max I’d want to spend on this project, a few hundred dollars on the paint. so even with the samples and then a few gallons, I’m in range.

Really, I think this challenge is so tough, this time, because nearly every creamy or off-white shade is “greiged” or with a green cast.

The bubble dome can be pretty flat. The advantage to the solar tubes is they can “bend” around obstructions between the roof and the room you want to light.

We put solar tubes in a previous home and loved the light they provided. There’s a product called the Spyder from Sun-Tek that allows you to do either two or four interior “lights” from one roof opening. That’s what I’d do next time.

I’d love to have some solar tubes in our current home, but we get such strong winds and wind-driven rain that I’m reluctant to have any additional roof penetrations. I’ll consider it if we live here long enough to re-roof the house since I’m determined to use Ice & Water Shield over the entire roof deck then.

Maybe move on from the off-whites and try a color? A really soft, buttery yellow maybe? I’ve used this color before, everyone who sees it loves it: https://www.benjaminmoore.com/en-us/color-overview/find-your-color/color/2021-60/provence-creme?color=2021-60

Doesn’t look great on the monitor, but it’s really nice on the walls IMO.

The thing with off-white is some color has to make it off-white. You could ask them what pigments are getting added, and avoid anything that will give it a green tinge.

Yes, but the LR and DR are both deep yellows (the sort that announce themselves.) DR is Polenta, looks like a color in Provence. (That was easy. Saw it, liked it, and as I painted, loved the way the furniture popped with it. Never stopped loving it.) So I wanted to avoid an all yellow look. I’ve said (and this may be no help to you) that I want the color of an off-white silk blouse. lol. As I said, it’ll bend your mind.

I can’t tell anymore, until I get the first coat on, one continuous color in all parts, and get a sense of how the whole sweep looks and whether I want the final look a hair more yellow or darker or what.

I thought this would be fun…

Saw a decorator friend’s rehabbed home today and it’s glorious. Every part is the right balance of the basics and some clever notes. But a much smaller space, less than 600 SF in her unit.That allows different choices. And only south light and a little west,which carries color differently.

Do I have a tendency to obsess? I don’t think so. It’s more the puzzle aspect.

I only ever backed out of a color once. It appeared to be a nice off white in a small square, but when the entire room was painted it somehow turned into a shade of peach. Took us both by surprise.

A different off-white was chosen and I got to paint it again.

Even the peach was better than the wallpaper that was in there, though. OMG.

“Peach” was a code word for bright pink our realtor used. He had a client who was obsessed with pink. He was trying to convince the client that her decked in pink house needed some updating. The lady said that “peach color was so in!”
LOL.