<p>I have a question - are all the Indian students submitting the mid year report?</p>
<p>I don't understand why we need to fill it- since i have attached my predicted grades with the material sent.</p>
<p>My preboard marks will probably be in the early 70's.
But do the colleges understand that Indian schools give really bad marks in preboard like in 10th i got 72% in my final preboard and 91% in the board.</p>
<p>its so much work to send it to all the colleges again- i am severely tempted to not send it to any college.</p>
<p>Yes, you have to submit your preboard marks. If they're in seventies, your grades would probably be B's or Upper C's depending upon the subject. Consult the Board Exam grading scheme.</p>
<p>Does the midyear report mean Rehearsal Exam marks or something???We don't have any sort of midyear exams or anything. I sent my attested December Exam marksheet. But , subjects like Phy and Chem are marked out of 70. The remaining 30 marks are practicals which I haven't sent. So I hope it won't be a problem.</p>
<p>And yes , Do I really need to write the toefl?. I do not have time actually.My boards are hardly a month away and I have Board practicals coming up so I have a hectic schedule.Harvard does not require the toefl. What about Princeton , Stanford and Caltech??</p>
<p>That won't be a problem as long as you've told them that your marks are out of 70, and not 100. Midyear grades are your pre-board marks. The colleges require your "latest" high school grades and those are your pre-board marks (for CBSE). I sent my half yearly and pre-board marks.</p>
<p>As for the TOEFL, I've never seen a university exempt applicants on the basis of their CR scores. I don't know about Cornell though. That said, you may be exempted if you've studied for at least four years in a high school where the medium of instruction is English.</p>
<p>Loads of universities including many Ivy League ones exempt you from the TOEFL requirement based on your CR scores :) Just e-mail them to confirm it if they haven't specifically mentioned it on their website.</p>
<p>Havent really posted here, but I am applying to MIT, Stanford, Princeton NUS and NTU.... Have been preparing for IIT too..... As for TOEFL, there are some waivers... But its better to take it anyway.. In schools like MIT, they might take it over SAT 1 if its better. And seriously, TOEFL is much easier than the SAT.....</p>
<p>That's a great misconception. Neither great TOEFL scores, nor great SATs will ever help you. SATs are just to show the university how able you are as compared to the other applicants and having even 2400 isn't a hook. Great HS transcripts and exceptional ECs are. SATs just assure the university of your basic math and reading abilities and they don't reveal something exceptional on your part.</p>
<p>A bad HS record and horrible ECs/Recommendations with a 2400 SAT will get you a straight rejection at top colleges. On the other hand, if your HS record and ECs are as stellar as a 2400, and you have not-so-impressive SATs, you're at a mch better position. Wonder why people begin to take the SAT as a "hook". No SAT is a hook guys, no not even a 2400. Colleges know that 4 years of HS matter much more than a 3 hour long test.</p>
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That's a great misconception. Neither great TOEFL scores, nor great SATs will ever help you. SATs are just to show the university how able you are as compared to the other applicants and having even 2400 isn't a hook. Great HS transcripts and exceptional ECs are. SATs just assure the university of your basic math and reading abilities and they don't reveal something exceptional on your part.</p>
<p>A bad HS record and horrible ECs/Recommendations with a 2400 SAT will get you a straight rejection at top colleges. On the other hand, if your HS record and ECs are as stellar as a 2400, and you have not-so-impressive SATs, you're at a mch better position. Wonder why people begin to take the SAT as a "hook". No SAT is a hook guys, no not even a 2400. Colleges know that 4 years of HS matter much more than a 3 hour long test.
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<p>First, I never said SAT was a hook. Second, I would like to see international students get in with a ruddy borky SAT score. That 3 hr long test is indeed the first thing that colleges look at. I remember one Adcom stating that they filter out applicants by SAT scores first. Believe it or not, colleges dont want their SAT averages to drop.</p>
<p>Anyways a person with great HS record and EC record is going as it is going to score great on SAT. Though there are a few bad standardized test takers. But they are rare. If they cant handle a 3 hr long test, I dont see how they will handle the college course. </p>
<p>Another point Harvard accepts around 75% or something, I am really not sure though, of the applicants who score 2400. Ofcourse their other part of the app is great too :)</p>
<p>Can someone get an adcom to quote that a 2400 isn't a hook at all? Even though it may not be as eye-popping as say, building a nuclear reactor in ur basement, I still think it's a hook, one that sets you apart from the other 2100 or 2200 ppl.. Ofcourse (at top colleges), it's not going to get you in with a bad HS record, but I don't think thats the purpose of a hook anyway. If it gets you noticed instead of other similar candidates, which I think a 2400 will do, IMO it's a hook, albeit a conditional one.</p>
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Anyways a person with great HS record and EC record is going as it is going to score great on SAT. Though there are a few bad standardized test takers. But they are rare. If they cant handle a 3 hr long test, I dont see how they will handle the college course.
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It's not about the 3 hrs, it's more about what sort of test it is. There are like thousands of people with great HS records who get screwed over every year by the SAT's. It doesn't measure how well you're going to handle college at all, come on. All it does is measure how well you can take the damn test. In all likelihood someone who's putting in effort in HS and doing well will put in some effort and get good SAT scores, but doing well in HS doesn't automatically mean you're going to get a good score. IMHO they're not related much at all.</p>
<p>@ajayc: What exactly is this project? Sounds interesting. A base on Malapart mountain?</p>