<p>It’s a very nice school. I was accepted, but don’t think it’s the right fit for me.</p>
<p>What does the school not having that business accrediation mean for students that obtain the business management degree?</p>
<p>Very little. It’s the universal seal of good housekeeping, and indicates the College has addressed specific standards. Terminal degrees, programs and professorial pedigrees, course selections, majors, etc. In the end, it is essentially a b school exclusive association. For individuals, beyond the obvious issues …don’t get invited to certain things, many students would not consider going there, same for faculty, pay scales, grant programs, grad school approval, etc. …so it’s not to be pooh-poohed. But it’s not the end all to end all. Good, bright students become good,bright alumni and eventually locate appropriate employment and become good, bright and productive employees. </p>
<p>Like all in academe, there is tremendous pressure to become Harvard-like …which means elitist and secular. And accreditiing associations are terribly bound up in the sad silliness. Undoubtedly, Christian colleges are penalized for teaching and nurturing following the 10 Commandments. Unless one might call them …10 Ways to More Productivity.</p>
<p>You know it only has about 300 students, right?</p>
<p>My niece looked at King’s College. She is now attending NYU. Things that seem fishy:</p>
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<li><p>They have a very very high acceptance rate (~80%) but at her meetings with them they tried to present themselves as highly selective.</p></li>
<li><p>They are throwing money around left and right (took her entire family to broadway show), including very expensive space in ESB, lots of scholarship money. Seem to have a load of cash and are desperate for students.</p></li>
<li><p>They don’t report test scores to college board, which is usually not a good sign of the calibre of student.</p></li>
<li><p>They also don’t report retention rate after freshman year - also a bad sign.</p></li>
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<p>Unless you have NO other options, I can’t think of a reason to attend.</p>
<p>I’m currently a student at King’s, so hopefully I can shed some light on a few things.</p>
<p>It’s true that when it comes to acceptance rates from actual applicants, the rate is very high. However, by “selective,” I think the school means that they target a certain type of student. Most of the people that apply to King’s in the first place are intelligent, highly-motivated with a strong interest in politics/philosophy/media/etc. </p>
<p>In a sense, they are desperate for students because the school needs to reach 800ish students before it can be financially self-sufficient on tuition. I believe the school will be coming up at almost 500 students in the 2010/11 year (over 200 new students reportedly, almost twice as last years). So, yes, they try to make it appealing to as many people off the bat.</p>
<p>To my knowledge, the scores are on college board at
[College</a> Search - King’s College - TKC - SAT®, AP®, CLEP®](<a href=“College Search - BigFuture | College Board”>College Search - BigFuture | College Board)</p>
<p>I think the average SAT is in the 1850-1900 range.</p>
<p>As far as retention rate, I don’t know too much about it. I can tell you that a good number of students leave after their first or second semester. Some leave because the city is just too much, others find a better-fitting program elsewhere, and some come for the city but find the academics too challenging. Like I said, to get by at King’s, you have to be pretty driven to succeed. It’s not just a fun, party school in NYC.</p>
<p>King’s is an excellent school, and I’m pretty sure it will be among the most respected Christian schools within the next few years. We constantly attract fairly important speakers and have some great faculty. Plus, there’s nothing like living in Manhattan, and the opportunities are almost endless. But it’s certainly not for everyone. The degrees are not focused on preparing for a certain line of work as much as they are training you to be a thoughtful human being.</p>
<p>Hopefully, that cleared up some of the confusion.</p>
<p>hopefully…but it created some more confusions…
what about the job placement rate of graduates from King’s?
what about the graduate school acceptance rate?
what is the starting salary?</p>
<p>without these things, looking just at the high amount of money would really be foolishness…</p>
<p>try to defend your college in these topics…can you provide exact data to prove that king’s actually is a good college???</p>
<p>I’m an alumnus of The King’s College and am currently an applicant at several top-10 law schools. I wanted to provide some answers to the questions about data and percentages.</p>
<p>First, I’d say that King’s graduates do have access to great opportunities, in terms of both graduate school and professional jobs. The challenge with data and percentages, however, is that not everyone wants the same things out of life, and not everyone takes advantage of every opportunity. I’m originally from North Carolina, and I can’t tell you how many of my UNC-Chapel Hill friends are working in retail and the service industry (and in North Carolina, not even somewhere exciting and more competitive like New York). My King’s friends, on the other hand, are working in D.C., at think-tanks, with hedge funds, in 60-story high rises in Manhattan, and are getting in to Boston College, Boston University, Duke, NYU, etc., for graduate school. Bottom line is, if you’re a hard worker and decide what you want to do and go after it, King’s resources you well.</p>
<p>Second, I’m not sure many undergraduate institutions publish the starting salaries for their graduates. Is this even standard? I know it would be standard for, say, a law school to publish this information because you’re publishing a salary within one specific industry, but even those numbers get fudged from time to time (see David Segal’s January 8, 2011 article in the New York Times entitled “Is Law School a Losing Game?”). If you’re an alumnus who has always planned on being elementary school math teacher, your starting salary isn’t even a helpful piece of data to the prospective student who knows he or she wants to be an investment banker. I would submit that one of the more foolish things you could do when looking into a college is rely on a school’s starting salary when making a decision. Sit in on the classes. Talk to the career services department. Have conversations with the people who have similar interests as you do, and see how successful they’ve been as a result of their time at the college. That’s the way to go.</p>
<p>I think those two bits of clarification will help the astute mind consider a college like King’s in the right light.</p>
<p>Best,
Bryan Nance</p>
<p>A few comments on points raised above:</p>
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<p>The SAT and ACT scores are [posted](<a href=“College Search - BigFuture | College Board”>College Search - BigFuture | College Board):</a></p>
<p>570 - 690 SAT-CR
510 - 620 SAT-M
570 - 670 SAT-W
24 - 30 ACT</p>
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<p>The freshman-to-sophomore retention rate is also [url=<a href=“College Search - BigFuture | College Board”>College Search - BigFuture | College Board]posted[/url</a>], at 61%. This does seem like an unusually low number.</p>
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<p>AACSB accreditation adds a certain degree of prestige and exclusivity to a business degree, but has relatively few concrete advantages. One exception: if your career interests include accounting, then a degree with specialized business accreditation (AACSB or ACBSP) may be desirable, because such degrees are often preferred by state licensing boards. </p>
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<p>One other point of possible interest: the collegeboard data indicates that The King’s College enrollment skews female to an unusual degree (62 - 38 %). This could be a plus or minus, depending on your perspective.</p>
<p>These last 2 posts are very insightful, careful in what they inform, “say,” project. Of course they lend a POV that is pro-Kings. That’s a good thing, speaks well that at least 2 folks have seen the great good news coming out of King’s. (btw, does it have a possessive? I’d assume so.) </p>
<p>One substantial anecdote that may be both cause and symptom of good news. King’s president is Dinesh D’Souza (sp?) He is an extemely impressive Christian scholar and leader, imo, who has perspective. I believe he is ivy league educated (meaning little beyond his being bright AND knowing what the darkside preaches and teaches). If he is not a lone rock star, but rather a symptom of the collective academic and spirtual leadership, this is a major issue. Conversely, if he is merely an iceberg’s tip, i.e. what the casual viewer from the bridge of the Titanic sees and experiences, that’s different. He’s written one of the more insightful, informing exposes on our president, explaining the unexplainable. And is a great apologist for Christianity. </p>
<p>Anyone know how King’s is funded? Tuition alone, especially @ Christian college competitive rates, won’t hack it. Who, how funded? This is a BIG DEAL anyplace, especially in the BIG APPLE where a street vended wienie requires a 2nd mortgage, and parking spaces cost more than my first 2 houses … combined! :eek:</p>
<p>Did anyone receive a 40k scholarship? Plus, app waiver. Need more info about this school. </p>
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<p>My daughter received the same e-mail, they said she id exceptional on her ACT…but she did not…is this school a scam?</p>
<p>No it’s not a scam! I actually go to King’s. It’s been a great school to me. People come here for many reasons. The city life, the location, the programs. It’s diverse yet has a common goal. I’ll be glad to talk to anyone who might have questions in need of insider info.</p>
<p>It is a diploma mill.</p>
<p>Yea, right … lol.</p>
<p>My daughter applied not knowing anything about the school, never sent scores nor grades but received an acceptance letter. Something does not add up. How is that possible pwn1000.</p>
<p>What type of student do you think would benefit florish at King’s College?</p>
<p>I applied here and got my acceptance letter today but it is dated the 16th and I applied the 13th with asking to have my transcript and sat scores sent after this date and I did not send letters of rec or a personal statement. Why did this happen?</p>
<p>marist-I guess if you apply, your accepted–regardless if they recieve your transcript or SAT scores. Do you know anything about this college? Very limited info out there and seems a bit skectchy to me!</p>
<h1>Sketchiest school I’ve ever seen</h1>
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<p>This is my honest impression and experience with this so-called “college.” I’ve really been needing to get this off my chest.</p>
<p>I did alright on the SAT, pulling out a 1900/1250. So, when I got an e-mail from The King’s College saying I was up for this huge scholarship, I took it seriously. I mean, college in the Empire State Building? How cool is THAT, right? I also seriously considered accepting their offer to come to New York, get taken to a show, etc. etc. It was after I found out that everybody and their grandmother received similar offers that I started to do research…</p>
<p>You see, The King’s College was your run-of-the-mill, small Christian college located in a suburb of New York City. Financial mismanagement forced it to go bankrupt and close in 1994. In 1999, it was refounded with Campus Crusade (Crusade? really?) for Christ as the sole proprietor. They then rented some space in the Empire State Building and a couple of apartments and set to work. </p>
<p>They’re main educational goal, as stated in their website, is to provide an education infused with the “Truths of Christianity.” They offer only 3 extremely general majors, two of which seem to be no more useful than toilet paper. Those three majors are:
Politics, Philosophy, & Economics,
Business Management,
and Media, Culture, & The Arts.</p>
<p>Additionally their website says nothing about concentrations. So please tell me what type of career you seek to get when you supposedly became an expert in Media, Culture, AND The Arts after 4 years. After researching everything, I tried to express my non-interest. I have e-mailed, returned mail, and even tried to call. I am essentially being harassed, I get a piece of mail from them 2 times a weak, at least, an e-mail almost every day, AND the occasional phone call, goading me to apply now, or apply for this scholarship, or to come and visit. I always say I’m not interested, but they just keep coming. </p>
<p>They are clearly desperate for students, how would any legitimate college offer anyone and everyone scholarships but have 300 students, so they can brainwash more “Crusaders.” (and any decent Christian with a knowledge of history should try to back a thousand miles away from being called a Crusader.) Cease any and all contact you may have with this so-called school immediately, if you express any interest they will NOT leave you alone.</p>