The Last Week Begins...Some Reflections

<p>As we enter this final week before we should have all artistic decisions in (my son is still waiting on three)...it seems appropriate to reflect on what I'm going to obsess about when all of this is over haha! How is everyone passing the time? Does your teen want to talk at all about it, or like mine, is content to just wait a little longer and chill in the meantime? Anything you would have done differently? </p>

<p>We began this process armed with good research, a well balanced list, and an attack plan. We did not have expensive coaching, but six years worth of voice lessons, dance, workshops and training, and some private sessions with an independent and objective critic. I am baffled by some of the absolute angst I see on other threads here about this subject, and I raise the issue here only to say that at the end of the day, what matters is that your kid gets in somewhere - to a school that's the right fit. It also requires the faith to know that your kid ends up EXACTLY where they should be.</p>

<p>One of the greatest things I'm taking away is the knowledge that his dad and I have done everything possible to help him find the doorway to his dream and set him down safely on the other side of the threshold. We tallied the expense yesterday -- 15 campus visits and lots of airfares, hotels, rental cars. It was no small number, but no matter - the cost seems cheap for what we've come away with, for which I am ever grateful:</p>

<p>I have watched my son do fearless things with the heart of a champion. I have a new respect for him. He had great auditions and lousy auditions. He got great feedback and one on-the-spot offer and he's received indifference and perceived boredom on the part of other auditors. It just underscores how variable and subjective this whole process can be....just like life. We've loved having the time to make this transition together and I've seen great things about him I never knew were there before. I think these theatre kids are just unbelievably brave and gracious.</p>

<p>My son has some excellent choices already, including a couple he is really excited about. I will pass the remainder of the week constantly checking email and making the daily pilgrimage to the mailbox, but just a little more secure that I have raised an awesome kid. Looking back, this has been good....very very good. :)</p>

<p>What an awesome post. I don’t have children going through this, just students, whom I call my “kids”… so while I can’t exactly understand the journey you’ve all gone through, I really do feel so much of the same way, and certainly I feel that pride.</p>

<p>And on another note, for all of the awesome things our kids are all experiencing, let it not be forgotten how appreciative I’m sure they all are for YOU!- your support and energy during this process are invaluable. From joining this board only 6 months or so ago, I am amazed at how supportive you all are towards one anothers children and each other. Truly, a fabulous group of people.</p>

<p>Congrats to all of you who have embarked on this journey and to all of your kids who have gained invaluable life experience in the face of the exciting next phase of their lives. :)</p>

<p>Great post that basically sums it up for me! Despite the increase in pounds and gray hair and the decrease in cash flow brought about by this process, I wouldn’t have missed it for the world. Watching my son grow into the next phase of his life has truly been priceless. And the connections forged along the way (including everyone on CC) will remain a wonderful addition to our lives.</p>

<p>The best is yet to come. I hope some of you hang around another year and pass along your wisdom to the current junior parents who will be in the thick of this crazy journey very soon. I’ll be weaning myself away to likely be reading about “science majors” or??? undeclared or??? whatever kid #2 who is in it next year comes up with but it won’t be theatre. Not quite as action packed a process as MT but also much to learn so I hope to get some help where I need it. </p>

<p>Wherever you decide to go, I recommend finding a parent friend a year or two ahead of you to ask all of the yet to be formed stupid questions to. It was really helpful to me just to get simple tips like “if you get to the city early, go get your student ID at ___ before the big move-in day rush”. One of many such examples. Good luck and fingers crossed for all of you. Home stretch!!!</p>

<p>And you don’t have to give up your CC addiction! I’m 2 years out and still find I can sometimes make a contribution to newbies, or ease some angst, or find tidbits of wisdom to send off to my daughter at NYU. I continue to thank the MT gods that I found this thread in time to fully support my daughter in her quest, starting her sophomore year in hs. Even though she thought I was nuts to start looking at colleges so soon, she now thanks me quite often for supporting her in her dreams. And any of you heading off to NYC, or considering it, or down the roads have friends looking into it, please feel free to PM or email me at any time. Best of luck to you all, and so glad you found out the joys you can carry away from the intense (and intensive) time you spent with your students going through this process!</p>

<p>Just to piggyback on what both halflokum and Christie2 have said, I had a slightly different experience. Being as my MT D was my last one at home, I found myself sliding into a MAJOR depression when she left, especially as she went clear across the country! It was just too hard for me to hang out here on CC for awhile because it just intensified the mourning for me. I really wanted to be here to support the current crop of seniors but I just couldn’t bring myself to do it.</p>

<p>But now that I’ve had time to adjust to it all I’m back and I’ve really been enjoying reading all of your experiences and he different journeys you’ve taken. It brings back great memories but also reminds me again that I’m so glad it’s over!</p>

<p>All of that to say, remember that CC is here, and we hope you’ll continue to check in, but I, for one, will understand if you need to take a break for awhile!</p>

<p>I will submit a more comprehensive list of things I got out of the past year once we know exactly where my daughter is going to attend, but two things come to mind:</p>

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<li><p>I am impressed how much more mature my D is then I realized. She went into this process with a game plan, and when there were modifications in the game plan (such as when some schools suggested she audition for both acting as well as MT), she evaluated, took their suggestions, and went with it. When I suggested she audition for more schools, she did not want to do so, and made excellent arguments why not. She was prepared to pursue different college major options if needed, and managed a grueling audition schedule while being President of a top show choir (whose competitions fell in the middle of audition season) and keeping her grades up. I now am more convinced than ever that she will succeed in life no matter where she attends and where her career takes her.</p></li>
<li><p>I have always known that my wife is a master of organization, but what she did for my D this past year was beyond amazing. She somehow managed to keep her insane schedule straight, helped with essays and applications, run the parent club for her show choir (a full time job on its own), be a Girl Scout leader, make all the auditions I couldn’t (which was the vast majority), and in the middle of this all take on a part time job, plus so many other things there isn’t room to mention. The kids and I couldn’t ask for a greater mom and wife, and this past year just solidified that in my mind.</p></li>
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<p>Those stand out right now. I’ll have more on the actual audition process, schools, etc later.</p>

<p>One thing that we would have done differently - my D would have applied/auditioned to more schools to begin with. She only auditioned at 4, and when the first two rejections came in - we were really sweating it! We researched schools, narrowed her choices down, and then chose her top 4 to applyto and audition. Luckily, it worked out. Part of our reasoning, was that she wanted to stay relatively close to home (within 5 hours). </p>

<p>We also waited until the beginning of her senior year for a voice coach and a monologue coach. In October, we were scrambling to find someone, and then because of holidays and a busy senior schedule, she only saw each of them once. She relied a lot on her high school choir director and her high school drama teacher - both of them are FABULOUS.</p>

<p>I also wish I would have found CC sooner. The advise and wisdom gained from viewing this site is terrific.</p>

<p>Still waiting for 4 schools’ artistic decisions, but I know things that I would do the same and things I would do differently.</p>

<p>Things I would do the same:

  • hire MTCA in the beginning of my D’s junior year
  • increase my D’s dance classes the last year and a half (she has been dancing for only 5 years)
  • apply to approximately the same number of schools (16…one safety)
  • sent her to theater camp every summer (she loved Stagedoor, and it was her release…I don’t think the college summer programs are necessary or even give anyone a leg up in the process…let your kid do what makes them happy over the summers)
  • visit as many schools as possible that were nearby (within a 6 hour drive) in her junior year so we could get a sense of what she liked and what she didn’t like
  • encourage her to keep up the academics b/c that academic money sure does come in handy
  • keep that dream school on the list, but make sure the list is comprised ONLY of schools she would love to attend</p>

<p>Things I would do differently:

  • found ongoing acting classes/training for my daughter (it was definitely her weakness…and everyone can sing, most people can dance, but the kids who can REALLY act have a leg up)
  • asked better questions of the schools before applying, especially who teaches freshmen vocal lessons (e.g., professors or grad students) - we may have eliminated some
  • scheduled auditions more carefully, so that schools with rolling decisions would be as early in the process as possible
  • been even more paranoid about illness from November on…we could have maybe avoided her January bout of pneumonia
  • not apply to schools with great reputations b/c we would “always wonder” … if she doesn’t seem to be a good fit, she’s not a good fit, regardless of how good the school is.</p>

<p>I learned that my D is an incredibly strong and determined young woman, and after living through this process with her, I am confident that she will succeed in this business (whatever that may mean). She is committed and driven and in love with what she does, and that came through clearly over these past five months.</p>

<p>This was a crazy time of our lives, and I am so glad it’s almost over…and I wish those of you beginning the process the best of luck over the next year.</p>

<p>Things to add:<br>

  • Get EZ Pass if you don’t already have it
  • Think long and hard about doing that last high school musical. If there’s any tiny part of your child that is willing to forego it, do it. Of course my child did 2 musicals her senior year and wouldn’t have given them up for the world, but it meant a much more complicated audition schedule (and fewer that could be done in Nov-Dec), and a VERY VERY stressful senior year. Being Mama Rose in mid-February in the absolute HEAT of auditions almost did her in.
  • Have at least someone in your life who understands exactly what you and your child are going through and who you can talk to freely. This should not be someone whose child is the same type as yours and competing for the same spots. This may make the difference between sanity and insanity. Actually insanity will probably happen anyway, but at least you can find something to laugh about.
  • Laugh whenever possible, because in the end much of this will seem like a crazy, mind-boggling crapshoot, and you have to have a sense of humor.</p>

<p>^^^ Yes, Calliene, I agree with you a million percent! Great points. </p>

<p>P.S. Thank you for being my person who I could talk to freely, laugh and cry with!!!</p>

<p>I second Monkey13’s comment in reference to Calliene, and it has been great to hold each other’s hand and scream together during this crazy roller coaster ride! :)</p>

<p>Hope I find a friend’s hand to hold next year!! Thank you all for your insight!</p>

<p>I posted above that two things I’ve learned are how much more mature my D is that I thought, and how fantastic my wife has been shepherding her through this process. Here are some more specifics when it comes to the process in genera, and I offer them more as a testimony to parents about to undertake this journey:</p>

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<li><p>Coaching. I can’t imagine how we would have done this without the audition coach we used. She was great (we love Kelly!!). Plus my D’s vocal teach was fantastic. Having these two wonderful women helped my D be ready for the process. My D met with the coach middle of her junior year and started working on monologues, etc the summer before senior year. </p></li>
<li><p>You need to trust your child’s instincts as to where he or she wants to apply. My D wanted to apply to schools where she felt she’d get more dance because she felt it was the weakest aspect of her portfolio, and she stuck to her plan despite dad trying to push other schools. To humor me she did a couple at Unifieds, came away with a blah attitude about the ones I pushed, and she won’t be going to those anyway. Ultimately your child knows more about what they want and need that anyone else.</p></li>
<li><p>I think this process is as much about your child deciding what school is right for him/her as it is for the school deciding on your child. My D would up auditioning live for 9 programs, 3 at unifieds and 6 on campus. After her on campus auditions she realized some places simply weren’t what she was looking for in either a program or a college setting. Which leads me to my next point…</p></li>
<li><p>Try to audition on campus if you can. Again this was great advice from the audition coach. By auditioning on campus it saved us from making two trips, one to audition and one to visit if accepted. I know it’s hard to do this for some based on the number of programs, which leads to my next point…</p></li>
<li><p>Do your research and put together a realistic list of schools. My D again did a great job of knowing what she felt she wanted, and had a list of schools that were stretches, and a majority that were solid possibilities. This I think is the most difficult part of the process; while every parent and every child has the stars in their eyes of their child being a fantastic talent, I would advise having someone give you and your child an objective analysis of their strengths and weaknesses before applying to schools. I saw a number of kids out there that had little experience in performing applying to places like CMU and CCU, places where they were unlikely to be competitive. I think by taking a realistic approach, doing your research ahead of time, getting objective appraisals, you can likely avoid the scenario where your child is applying to 15-20 schools, and you basically write off his or her senior year with auditions. Which leads to my next point…</p></li>
<li><p>Allow your child to still be a child. I know some kids on here go to performing arts HS and/or spend all their time in community theater when not in school, etc. If that’s your case, God bless you. But whatever you child’s high school experience, let them have it. They will never get that senior year back, and if it is spent doing nothing but getting ready for and doing auditions, they’ll never get that time back. My D was President of her show choir (ranked 3rd in the country -shameless bragging there!!), was a lead in the fall play, and was in the gigantic Christmas show her HS puts on every year. Plus went to the football games, hung out with friends, and kept her grades up. And I believe she would have regretted it the rest of her life if she had given all that up simply to do college auditions. I know all kids are different, but I would advise letting your kid still be a kid and do what they like to do as a senior. Yes, they need to prepare for auditions but I would advise not letting that consume their entire life.</p></li>
<li><p>Grades. This is more for the freshman/sophomore parents and kids out there (some juniors too). Before starting the audition stuff we attended a talk by a Theater Department chair. The first thing he said to parents and kids is that they needed good grades. For two reasons. One is that they look for smart kids that can synthesize information quickly. As he said, they will audition hundreds of kids for about 20-30 spots, they know they’ll get talent, but they need smart kids (and they need nice kids, so if you’re in any way diva-ish lose that now). His second point about grades was simple; the university has minimums for GPA and test scores that have to be met for admission, and if you’re not there you don’t get in regardless of your talent. Again, with hundreds applying they don’t have to make exceptions. So it is CRITICAL that when evaluating programs you make absolutely sure what their standards are for admission, and that you are in that ballpark. Otherwise you will potentially waste time and $$ auditioning for a program where you you not be admitted. And for parents, grades are obviously critical when it comes to affording wherever your son or daughter gets admitted. My D is right now waiting to hear about a scholarship at one program where she’s been accepted for MT, where her grades and ACT have gotten her into the finals for a full 4 year ride (tuition, room and board, etc). And for another program the $$ they have offered make it quite affordable, and it’s just based on academics.</p></li>
<li><p>Make this a joint effort. Having a spouse as I do with amazing organizational skills was paramount to this process. I think this has to be a joint parent/child effort; I know my D simply would not have had the time to do all the juggling of audition dates, application deadlines, etc without help. So I would advise setting out a list early on as to what the child needs to be in charge of, what the parents will be in charge of, with regular sit downs as to progress, etc. Otherwise the process can easily overwhelm you. As for other things parents can do…</p></li>
<li><p>Be quiet. Not during the trips to schools and auditions; the auditions I went on and the time I got to spend with my D during those trips, and the conversations we had, etc will stay with me forever. It was a very special time for me. But once you get there, I learned you have to be quiet and not push the program directors, faculty, etc, etc. My questions during Q and A sessions focused on campus safety (can you tell I have a daughter) and finances. I deliberately stayed out of asking specifics about the training program per se, because I was told by our audition coach that you don’t want to look like a helicopter, obsessive stage parent. I felt that was good advice. Auditions are a stressful enough time for your child. Being that type of parent would only add to the stress (and I saw that happen to kids more than once during my trips).</p></li>
<li><p>And just be there. That’s the best thing a parent can do. For someone like me who is trained as a scientist and is used to having objective data on which to base decisions, I found the entire audition process to be frustrating beyond belief. It is to me completely subjective, and although I should be used to this after my D performing for 7 years now, it’s still mystifying. So I try to just be there. When there are tears, we tried to be encouraging. When the diva-ish stuff came out, we became more stern. More than once we asked whether this was really what my D wanted to do given the subjective nature of the business. But we were there. That was the key. </p></li>
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<p>So now we’re almost done. My D should hear from her last two programs in the next day or so. She has one acceptance in hand to a very good MT program. And she (and we) have also learned to expect the unexpected. She has also been accepted to a very good acting/theater BFA program, so now she will not only have to decide between schools, but whether she sees herself more as a MT performer or straight theater performer! So in the end, for her the process allowed her to realize her dream, brought us closer together as a family, and gave us experiences and memories that we will always remember. Not bad for a senior year!</p>

<p>Wow! What an AWESOME post jeffandann!!! Especially #6 and #9. #6 isn’t one that I hear people emphasize on CC very much. I hope you stick around and share these pearls for those who come after us. Thank you!</p>

<p>Echoing halflokum and tracyvp sentiments (I believe, we belong to MT batch 2016), even if our kids will soon be finishing their first year of MT, we still continue to visit CC – especially during this time. My MT D was also the last to move out of our home - it was a big adjustment for my husband and I becoming empty nester thousand of miles away from our 3 kids who are schools in East Coast. And thinking of what my D and I had been through the last two years, I won’t have done anything differently. And it sums up with what my D has recently posted in her FB page: – a year ago today, I was accepted into Tisch. and since then, life has been pretty damn amazing.</p>

<p>Bottom line, it’s all worth it! So hang in there. :)</p>

<p>jeffandann, I loved your post but I just wanted to add something from my own experience: I did not have a coach and my parents did not really help me with anything except booking flights/hotels to my two on-campus auditions. Everything else I did myself: finding repertoire (I have a voice teacher that worked on it with me, but I chose the songs and monologues myself by researching plays and musicals), ordering headshots, filling out the applications for admissions and MT, scheduling auditions, talking with admissions/MT department/current students on the phone and over email/Facebook, keeping up with deadlines, asking the questions, even taking tours by myself – while also keeping my grades up, applying for a billion scholarships so that I’m even able to ATTEND a college, being in shows, taking voice lessons and working 22-25 hours a week. So it is possible for students to step up and take on all the work. I’m definitely not saying that you or anyone else who helps their students with this is ‘babying’ their kids or anything; in fact, sometimes I wish my parents HAD helped out a little more because you all seem so helpful and encouraging to your kids. But I just wanted to point out that I feel like I am a better student and I feel more knowledgeable about auditions, colleges, and theatre in general because I was the one doing everything for myself. And in the end, it was worth it and I’m pretty proud of myself. You all should be proud of yourselves and your kids too! I just wanted to add a different perspective to this point :-)</p>

<p>Artichoke, I am impressed! Best of luck; you have a bright future I can tell!</p>

<p>Unfortunately, its not the last week for us. Still have 3 decisions she is waiting on. Can’t wait to hear from all and get down to the decision making. Glad that she does have choices though!! Thankful.</p>

<p>Artichoke, you and kids like you are the ones that impress me the most. REALLY!! Your ability to navigate this chaotic maze pretty much on your own shows incredible drive and maturity. VERY admirable; you will go far!</p>