The Missouri Conflict; Parents How Would You Advise Your Football Player Student?

Hmm… with 99% of cellphones having cameras and video capabilities, mysteriously, oh so mysteriously, not one pic or video of this has been presented anywhere, including the aforementioned scenarios.

It is even more mysterious that cellphones were / are always available to film the protesters every move, but no cellphones ever seem to work when the bad stuff is going on. We just have to take their word for it. Yeah right!

My suggestion - stop being gullible and stop digging. It is becoming comical at this point.

This is the group version of UVA Jackie - all sorts of really bad stuff was said to have happened in specific and exhausting detail, but not one thing could be verified to have actually occurred. Same thing going on here.

And then advocates resort to, well, it could have happened, and it is the messaging and narrative that are important, even if this specifically is a lie. This is getting old and stale. They need a new playbook - one with real events.

I am being to think that Glenn Reynolds has a point about both Mizzou and Yale and about current college students in general:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/11/11/raise-voting-age-25-yale-missouri-protests-political-debate-column/75577468/

This was his e-mail:

The wording works for me.

The following link has examples of how some folks responded to his e-mail. It isn’t pretty.

http://■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■/2015/11/more-mizzou-madness-prof-under-fire-over-exam-outrage/#more-149349

@tiger1307 All you’re doing right now is spreading the same rumors that were circulating on campus last night. The only confirmed threat was Park’s. None of the other things, as far as I know, occurred. I had multiple friends (and one of my professors) who said they walked around on campus last night between 9 p.m. and midnight and that it was quiet. Park was not even on campus when the threat is made, so while it was scary (and many rightfully so were incredibly worried), it wasn’t a legitimate threat; seems like he has a sick sense of humor and wanted to incite fear.

I think this is similar to the schools in the Philly area that had classes a few weeks ago after there were threats - that it is best to just continue with things as scheduled. I have to assume that this professor’s classroom was in a regular university building, and that there would actually be more security on the campus this week, not less. Football practice resumed, so those at the heart of the protest felt safe on campus.

I do not really understand where the protests are taking place or why the protesters don’t want the media to cover the protests. Usually those protesting want all the publicity they can get so hold the protests in the center of campus, on the quads, or in a specific department (like protesting the chemistry department, or a specific professor, or at the admin building).

@CE527M If anybody has said, I missed it; are classes going on? The Nutrition professor’s email makes it sound as if no one is attending classes.

If things are in such a flux they need to close the school and the dorms and send everyone home until after Thanksgiving. They can allow the football players to stay and play their last two games. Cheerleaders, band or whoever else are not needed.

Whoever is in charge should be protecting the safety of all students and it seems a few are working themselves into a violent confrontation.

The Yik Yak poster and others making death threats against the Communications (fail) professor show there are crazies outside the school and the city who might cause violence.

That would probably be exactly what any actual haters, terrorists, and tr*lls want them to do.

In a climate of fear and anger, it is easy for people to act and talk without thinking, perhaps based on rumors spreading quickly through social media. This appears to include students, faculty, administration, police, and outside political commentators.

@OspreyCV22 It was announced at 6 a.m. Wednesday morning that the university would be operating on a normal schedule. Some professors chose to cancel class. Most professors who still held classes sent emails saying that class would be held but that students would not be penalized if they decided to stay home. Many felt that the school needed to close but the only confirmed, actual threat was the one that the guy made who was arrested. I think the university is trying to stay as normal as possible and move forward to the best of their ability within reason. I’m sure if there were more threats or groups like the KKK were actually on campus we would’ve been closed today.

Various administrators have sent out multiple emails today saying how safety is their #1 priority, that the counseling center will be having extended hours, etc. A lot of residence halls were on “code yellow,” which means that the exterior doors are locked, as a precautionary measure. They’re normally open during the daytime (and then you have to swipe into another set of doors to access the rooms). My res hall coordinator also sent out a lengthy email discussing the situation. Lots of emails in the past couple days all around.

The campus was quieter today, especially this morning, but by midday there were plenty of people to be seen. My lecture was 3/4 full and my discussion class was 1/2 full. I had friends, however, who said that they had classes with only 50 kids out of 400 show up. So wide variety in who came to class. I would say people with later classes were more likely to show up than ones with 8-10 ams.

I just sent an email to Dr. Brigham, thanking him for his courage and for asking his students to be equally courageous as they promote their own ideals.

At University of Missouri, Black Students See a Campus Riven by Race
Many black students say that racial tensions were already woven into the fabric of everyday life at the University of Missouri, well before the recent cascade of events.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/12/us/university-of-missouri-protests.html

This is kind of a dumb argument, isn’t it? It’s like saying we don’t have a divided country because a majority of us elected a black president.

Re: #208 and http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/12/us/university-of-missouri-protests.html

Looks like a buildup of festering problems over time (including, but not limited to, racism) made a situation where it did not take much to bring about the current situation.

Actually, alot of people would argue that electing a black president has caused our country to become more divided.

But to your point, people like @boolaHI have argued that the lack of African Americans in predominately white sororities at the University of Alabama is a sign of racism. So by the same logic, the University of Missouri electing an African American student president and vice president should be a sign of inclusion. You can’t have it both ways.

Sorry, that is all too simple. Because we have one event, does not mean that another is extinguished or not present. Has the US come a long way from Jim Crow laws–yes, but that does not mean there is still racism towards blacks. Like many things in society, the answer lies in the grey ambiguous section that lies in-between. So, while I would say yes, an AA president at either the White House or at the UMizz is a sign of inclusion, its not definitive, and nor does that indicate everything is peachy.

the next person who needs to resign is the student president…he tweeted a racial hoax yesterday(and big one that has me scratching my head…did he think nobody would call him out on that??)… of course there is still his first “claim” of being racially harassed by “white people” in a truck …me thinks the guys already questionable first story got ruined by his 100% verifiable hoax tweet from yesterday. I would imagine getting a new president for the school (actual president not student body president) will be almost impossible. who in their right mind would step into U of Missouri now and try to fix that sinking ship.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015/11/12/protests-over-campus-race-relations-spread-more-campuses

Might get bigger before it is settled one way or the other.

@zobroward what was the hoax? I missed it.

he tweeted out that he was working with the national guard/state police and MU police and that students should stay away from the windows because the KKK was on campus.

he was called out by the school…who said the national guard as well as the KKK was not at the school.

he retracted his story and said he made a mistake. yeah, because sometimes I think when I am sitting in my room the national guard as well as multiple police agencies are working with me and than I remember that it was a mistake.(I am actually in my room just making stuff up! )…how he thought that 100% verifiable hoax would pass under the radar is beyond me.

Here is a link to the police report about the poop swastika
http://www.scribd.com/doc/289392992/Mizzou-Poop-Swastika-Police-Report

Maybe I am expecting too much in terms of consistency from today’s students.

I thought the problem was some overarching issue of being marginalized, but then they marginalize others who are trying to assist them.

Oh, I get it now. You can marginalize others by their skin color, while protesting being marginalized by your skin color by others. Therefore, marginalization is OK when you do it, but not for others. The “I can step on you, but you cannot step on me” mindset.

Intellectually lost is the term that comes to mind to describe these students. However, it is expected, as this is what happens when one’s feelings are emphasized and are deemed more important than the ability to think analytically and rationally.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2015/11/12/who-needs-jim-crow-black-mizzou-students-self-segregate-n2079672

The swastika police report:

http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/11/mizzou-finally-releases-poop-swastika-police-report/

So, it did occur. But, I still do not get it. They have no idea who did it. So, ala Oberlin et al, what happens if it is found out that an activist did it to get attention?

And, there is the problem - too much fake stuff all around to get attention, and thus a whole lot of people are not believing things are what they seem anymore.