The New 2007 USNEWS rankings

College Search & Selection
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<p>Aurelius,</p>

<p>Maybe JHU's number excludes the medical expenditure because its number is so enormous that if it's included, it's just way too obvious.</p>

<p>FYI, in 2004, the med research $ for WashU was 371 million. That means the money for non-medical research was only 62 million (14% of the total). US News gets all other data from common data set which does not say anything about the budget and finance. It's up to the school as to what were included as research expenditure and operating budget (schools with big med school will also have big operating budget).</p>

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when will UCLA take the spot of #1 public!? what would it take to accomplish this?

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<p>Berkeley will always be top!!</p>

<p>HAHAHAHA.</p>

<p>...</p>

<p>Just kidding.</p>

<p>Sorry.</p>

<p>Go bears <em>waves flag</em></p>

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<p>I'll wait for the day, I know it will come!!</p>

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<p>Never. CAL and Michigan are simply better (and I say this as a UCLA undergrad alum). UVA, on the other hand, that's debatable.</p>

<p>If the rankings are real, I love USC's stagnation. Just goes to show that not every private school with a huge endowment can continuously buy their way up the ladder (WUSTL).</p>

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<p>WashU going up? Give me a break.</p>

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<p>I'm not the only Bruin who noticed USC backsliding. It's about time. :rolleyes:</p>

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<p>Any ideas on changes in methodology?</p>

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<p>My thoughts:</p>

<p>*Penn is not as good as Yale
*Duke deserved to be knocked down for some of those better ones
*WUSTL shouldn't have moved up
*Chicago should have cracked the top 10 :D
*Vandy should have dropped out of the top 20 for ND or Gtown
*Emory deserved to move up a couple spots
*UT deserves to move up a couple spots (gotta support my state school)
*Wesleyan should've moved up
*Amherst should've taken Williams down</p>

<p>I don't know yet...I'll wait till the 18th. These rankings seem kinda crazy but who knows.</p>

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<p>good to see berkeley moving up a spot or two, good to see ucla moving up a spot, good to see ucsd moving up a spot. also good to see usc dropping four spots:). now all three top tier uc's are hopefully ranked above usc, as they should be.
I love penn and all, but come on, tied with yale, give me a break. Yale harvard princeton stanford columbia mit and caltech all belong well above penn.</p>

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<p>Maybe USNews sponsors a contest for their lower level employees each year: Come up with a novel way to bump Chicago and get a 3% pay raise.</p>

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<p>coming from a penn student I agree that Penn should not be at #3...the schools that are better than Penn are HYPSM and CalTech. Penn should be somewhere around #7-8 but it's ok I guess I'll have to settle with #3... :)</p>

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<p>Why is Penn ranked above Stanford, MIT and Caltech!??</p>

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<p>Caltech??? Please..... It shouldn't even be on the list!</p>

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<p>veerawudth</p>

<p>I offered my thoughts here:</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=2827623#post2827623%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=2827623#post2827623&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>Haha, of course the school with the highest average SAT in the nation doesn't belong on the list ;-).</p>

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<p>About Penn, I heard something about the editor of US News going to Penn, so that's why it's rated so high.</p>

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<p>this list is a joke: it's on *********, and it's completely fake</p>

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<p>This came from *********.com, where it is accepted that it is just crap. Yale tied with Penn? Hah! Look at the difference in acceptance rates! They only brought it here so that they could see how we'd react.</p>

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<p>somebody space that ************.com out so it won't be censored...what's the website?</p>

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<p>kk19131, are you deluded? That its students are uniformly brilliant aside, Caltech is one of the most rigorous schools in the country. It deserves much more credit than the general public is willing to give it (though U.S. News does a pretty good job on that front).</p>

<p>Chicago, unfortunately, gets no love from either which is truly a shame. Its undergraduate curriculum is truly the highlight of the institution.</p>